Cessna down in Gainesville GA

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  1. Stephen Snowdy

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    N3652C taking off for Daytona, crashed immediately after takeoff at 18:10 local. 300 overcast at KGVL. The flight was filed for 3,000'. Registered to Danette Dial, no instrument rating listed on FAA site.
     
  2. ScottinIowa

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    Could be another wing separation incident too. The wing came crashing through somebody's roof.
     
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  4. TrueCourse

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    Ugh, that track log looks awful.
     
  5. asicer

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    KGVL 262253Z AUTO 08009KT 4SM BR OVC004 07/06 A3016 RMK AO2 SLP213 T00720061
    KGVL 262153Z AUTO 07008KT 5SM BR OVC004 07/06 A3017 RMK AO2 RAE06 SLP213 P0000 T00720061
    KGVL 262115Z AUTO 06006KT 5SM BR OVC004 07/06 A3017 RMK AO2 RAE06 P0000 T00720061
    KGVL 262101Z AUTO 08007KT 4SM -RA BR OVC003 07/06 A3016 RMK AO2 P0000 T00720061
     
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    With a relatively large debris field I would think it was more like the plane separated from the wing.
     
  7. Stephen Snowdy

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    Plane co-owned with an instrument rated pilot...
     
  8. PeterNSteinmetz

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    Where is the track log?
     
  9. TrueCourse

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    Just search FlightAware under that N Number. There’s a link on the page of that last flight. Upper left 1/4 of that page when looking via an iPad.
     
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    Local news indicates 3 aboard, no fatalities on the ground.

    Local TV meteorologist (who is a pilot) was interviewed and indicated that rain had ended at the time, but showed 400' overcast with fog and mist. Visibility of 4 miles.
     
  11. TrueCourse

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    So that registered pilot (that had a co-owner) in the first post just wrote elsewhere that the plane was sold recently to someone else, an instrument rated pilot. And asked others to not post a name out of respect. I’d agree with that.
     
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    That does not look pleasant.
    Not sure what they were doing from looking at this info. Initial course of 224 is the track for RWY 23 departure to 2700 and then a turn to the south. Above suggests a tailwind on that takeoff. Below suggests a turn to the north, even though they were heading for Daytona Beach, to the south.
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    For a non metric user, doesn’t look as dramatic when presented metric.
     
  14. GRG55

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    Airport elevation is 1277 or 390 meters. If they indeed got down to 396 meters at the 06:09:41 mark that's only 1299 feet. That implies they didn't make the transition to instruments successfully to establish the climb in IMC. Might have been trying to get the gear up (turbo RG 182) and then perhaps realized their attitude and altitude situation? At that point it appears they are already drifting off the correct climb track.

    There's not much safety margin with 300/400 ft ceilings and rain & mist. Looks like they may have been behind the airplane almost immediately; tough to recover in those conditions I imagine.
     
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    I don't know why yours is metric...
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    I thought that was strange as well. That's the first time I've ever used the track log on FlightAware. Hardly ever use that app. Maybe there's some settings somewhere I'm supposed to initiate?
     
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    When I looked it up it was not metric. Maybe your browser has your location wrong or you have a VPN set to a location outside USA. I’ve seen browsers do strange things with location.
     
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    Looks like pilot was instrument rated. Just got his private or perhaps instrument rating 6/2020.
     
  19. asicer

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    Does Flightradar24 do the same for you?

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n3652c#26ee967b
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    very sad R I P
     
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    Local TV news is reporting that the plane was attempting to return to KGVL and was unable to do so. It impacted trees approximately one mile from the airport.
     
  23. GRG55

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    That's a tough assignment. The only approach that appears to be within the reported weather in post #5 is the ILS for 05, the opposite runway to the one they appear to have departed from.
     
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    Just saw this story and it hit me hard. I just did my first solo flight at this airport less than 24 hrs prior to this crash.
     
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    I'm sure that's tough to take, but congrats on your solo.
     
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    Wings don't fall off of 182's without a lot of aerodynamic help.