Cessna 210 down near Camarillo

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Cessna 210 down near Camarillo. Tail number N9735X. Anyone have any info on this?
 
Fuel management? I always find it a bit suspicious when the engine suddenly stops that close to reaching the destination airport.
 
RyanB said:
Fuel management? I always find it a bit suspicious when the engine suddenly stops that close to reaching the destination airport.
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The 210 has very little wing dihedral, and Cessna recommends not running the tanks below 1/4 full. Any uncoordination in the pattern can unport the tank in use.

From the 210L POH:

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RyanB said:
Fuel management? I always find it a bit suspicious when the engine suddenly stops that close to reaching the destination airport.
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No signs of gas leaking from an upside down airplane.... The pilot community in general really needs to do better.
 
Kitch said:
No signs of gas leaking from an upside down airplane.... The pilot community in general really needs to do better.
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I see some staining on the concrete flowing away from the airplane. Granted it is not a blue stain, but something moved across the pavement.
 
tbf, slipping/skidding for 60 seconds is an extraneous condition. They're not saying treat 1/4 tank as empty, that marketing pamphlet merely implies "don't stol-bro it from 10k AGL to a landing" with less than 1/4 tank. The unporting isn't immediate stoppage anyhow, that system appears to have a "header tank" downline of the wing.

All that said, yeah occam tends to point at homeslice straight running the selected tank dry at an inopportune time, though we can't know that from just that picture. And yes, old timey lawnmower tank fuel gauges are subpar for the 21st century. And that's not gonna change for the remaining life cycle these things have left. So it's probably prudent to just tanker fuel around like a knuckle-dragger and eat the diminished power-loading/payload. Beats eating a panel at night.

Alphabet soup should be able to figure out if they took on gas in Vegas, and go from there. Wouldn't be the first time people play FAFO games with the fuel-guessing normalized by the crappy fuel qty tech. Not condoning bad ADM, just saying I'm not cynical enough to accuse the usual suspects of pushing range in the presence of a caret flashing red saying "ya ain't gonna make it".
 
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BillTIZ said:
I see some staining on the concrete flowing away from the airplane. Granted it is not a blue stain, but something moved across the pavement.
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No apparent effort by the fire department to keep anything from flowing into that canal, either.
 
hindsight2020 said:
Alphabet soup should be able to figure out if they took on gas in Vegas, and go from there. Wouldn't be the first time people play FAFO games with the fuel-guessing normalized by the crappy fuel qty tech. Not condoning bad ADM, just saying I'm not cynical enough to accuse the usual suspects of pushing range in the presence of a carat flashing red saying "ya ain't gonna make it".
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If, indeed, this was fuel exhaustion, it's probably a classic case of get-there-itis. Late in the day. Rain in the forecast. Again, assuming fuel exhaustion, there were several potential stops along the way where he could have taken-on fuel. BUR, WHP, VNY...to name a few.
 
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