And how awful it is? How is THIS the most common plane in the world? Now that I have that off my chest... I've been holding off on this thread as I've only put about 2.5 hours and a dozen landings on the thing, but I'm hoping some of you cessna peeps can offer some advice. The "aircraft" in question is a 1974 150hp 172M. It's ugly and has a lousy panel, but it's cheap and has wings & a motor. It actually runs well and has surprisingly good power. It seems to be very well rigged and happily flies hands off once you get the the trim set. I'll start with the positives. It takes off and lands very short and is capable of flying at very low speeds. Landing it is laughably easy. Every landing is a squeaker. The stall horn, which I was sure I would hate, is actually really useful. The list of things I hate is too long write out, but here's the thing I hate the most: the trim. I understand now why people have a hard time understanding trim. In a cherokee, you set a speed with the trim, and the plane generally holds that speed within a fairly wide range of power settings. In the pattern you don't touch the trim; set up your power and speed correctly in the downwind, and each notch of flaps slows the plane down until it settles at vref when you pull in the last notch on final. In the Cessna I can't find that magic sauce. It seems like changing the flap setting requires a power and trim change. The thing is just all over the place. It's probably me. Any advice? TLDR: how do you fly the pattern in a 172? Also Cessna bashing encouraged.