C180 Airfoil

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    I'm looking for some information on what is described as a European C180 air foil (no, nothing to do with the Piper airplane).
    I've had no luck searching online. Does anyone have a suggestions on where to seek more information on this airfoil?
     
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    Perhaps NASA - aeronautics is their second name. Try searching google books.
     
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    I'd already tried airfoiltools and ignored NASA as I knew it was a European design. I had not read that it was proprietary. Even if it is proprietary, does that mean it is not in a European data base? Thanks to all for the suggestions.
     
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    Back in the olden days, a big name organization like NACA would design airfoils, do the wind tunnel testing, and make data available for people who design airplanes.
    Now, anyone with a computer can design and simulate their own airfoil and customize it to the target speed / load ranges for a particular aircraft and never publish the foil data or have it put in a data base. Many just claim that the foil is proprietary, but if you have access to an actual aircraft, it's not that hard to reverse engineer.
     
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    I found this quote in a published paper Investigations on stability and control characteristics of a CS-VLA certified aircraft using wind tunnel test data at https://www.researchgate.net/public...ertified_aircraft_using_wind_tunnel_test_data.

    One of the references (#21) is a link to the Flight Design website and was last downloaded in 2015, but when I tried it I got a "404" from the Flight Design website, so the link is broken. Searches for "airfoil FD14-144" wound up back at the researchgate article. :(
     
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    Thanks very much for this information. I'll see if I can follow up on it. I see the discussion of the wing in question in the article says it is a derivative of the C180. The C180 wing on my aircraft has a stall strip on the inboard end of the wing and is straight with no drooped nose.
     
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    If one were to disclose what one intended to do with the data, then perchance, others might be able to make suggestions relevant to the intended objective.
     
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    How about the Cessna airplane?
     
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    Pretty much the same NACA2412 at the root fading off to a NACA0012 at the tip as many of the strut braced Cessnas (most of the rest stick with the 2412 all the way to the tip)
     
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    :yeahthat:
    That's true, and not too difficult to do. I can't help but wonder, though, why some manufacturers have no problem identifying the airfoil used in the wing, vertical and horizontal stabilizers, rudder and elevator, while others keep it a big secret. Heck, aircraft manufacturers whose products are available both as kits (plans only, kits, quick build kits) and as turn-key ready-to-fly airplanes often provide full size rib templates for wings and control surfaces.