Black Fly, VTOL

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by jmp470, Jul 13, 2018 at 7:16 PM.

  1. jmp470

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    Has anyone been following it’s deve? Looks interesting, and fun. It’s interesting where technology is headed.



    I’m not sure it is vaporware or not, but, looks entertaining.
     
  2. Cluemeister

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    They are going to be at Oshkosh.
     
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    If a bunch of little rotors work as well as a giant one, wouldnt we already have helicopters like that? I beleive sooner or later the tech will catch up and these things will work. But it will be decades from now. Need even lighter materials, batteries, etc.

    First will come a useful electric plane. Dont worry about the octocopter version until then.
     
  5. paflyer

    paflyer Final Approach

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    It can hit a top speed of 62 MPH!!

    "Reel life". LOL.
     
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    Yeah revolutionary.....except tilt-wing technology is old af. So are tilt-rotors.

    What the fanbois don't understand is that this has nothing to do with Luddite arguments, and everything to do with weight, thrust vectoring complexity (weight) and degrade modes. tilt-wing/rotors have horrendous degrade flight characteristics. Frankly they make helicopter hover/autorotate dynamics look "car driving" simple. Lord knows pedestrians have no business manually attempting to hover in any capacity, let alone as bona fide pedestrians with no formal flight training, which btw is one of the primary barriers to access to the recreational skies (cost).

    Automation isn't gonna be able to avoid the carnage when these things lose propellers asymmetrically or encounter high crosswind components in STOL-VTOL phase of flight, especially so for the tilt-wing variant. Basic b---h Suzie and Johnnie manbun aint' gonna like that opportunity cost so much. But it's a cool demonstrator, so credit where credit is due. Maybe they can give carnie rides at OSH for nickle a pop. :D

    Weeee.....
     
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    tinerj Cleared for Takeoff

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    A book written in the early 1980s said "CP/M as an operating system will be around for decades to come." By the time the book was published, MS DOS had replaced CP/M.

    Technology can change with knife edge suddenness.

    This is intended to appeal to skateborders, paddle board fans, jet skiers, etc. In that sense it is a breakthrought. It is an Ultralight, and for that reason it will be limited in weight and speed. And initially it must be an ultralight so prospective buyers can fly it with no more training as any other ultralight.
     
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    Yeah, a total power failure isn't going to end well. I wonder how many of those little fans they can afford to lose? Statistics says the more motors you have, there is a higher probability that an individual motor will fail. That is fine if it can fly on three, but if the loss of one is critical, not so much.
     
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    Ever notice these clips are always set to music? If anyone heard the actual (massive) amount of noise these things make, the enviro crowd would put a stop to it quickly I suspect. If they think weed whackers and leaf blowers are noise pollution, wait until they hear even one of these, much less all of the 1%’ers commuting daily to their downtown offices from the bucolic settings where these promo’s are always shown.
     
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    tMc9z.jpg Slow, noisy, dangerious, can't fly high, and what if global warming dries up all the lakes, what then. I'll stick with my 40 year old plane with 60 year old technology and bad mouth anything new and different.
     
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    The video you linked has far less to do with tilt-rotors than it does with Murphy-proofing connectors and QA.

    Nauga,
    and a few crossed wires
     
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    The idea of flying cars was already decades old in 1980.....