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Discussion in 'Lessons Learned' started by John_flys, Feb 18, 2020.

  1. John_flys

    John_flys Filing Flight Plan

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  2. Ryanb

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    FTFY. :D
     
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    Look up 14 CFR 61.153(c).
     
  5. Weekend Warrior

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    FTFY
     
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    And he would not have been convicted except the cops are corrupt, the prosecutor was having sex with his ex-wife and the judge was his ex father-in-law?
     
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    Meeting the low bar for good moral character as defined by the FAA (which to my knowledge, hasn't prevented anyone from obtaining an ATP in recent memory) is one thing, getting hired on by an airline is another. I would direct the OP to contact potential employers directly and determine what their hiring requirements are.
     
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    I suspect the career opportunities for a convicted felon are restricted to the wide world of unskilled labor.
     
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    What a welcome.
     
  10. Arnold

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    I'm sorry, what felony was your friend convicted of?

    Each state has methods for obtaining rehabilitation such as post conviction relief statutes and pardons.

    Your friend should contact an attorney who specializes in these areas and get a consultation. It may be the felony can be erased, or expunged.
     
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    Im trying to understand this. If your friend wasn’t involved with alcohol or drugs, but the person in the other car was, than why does your friend have this on his record?
     
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    Arnold Line Up and Wait

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    1) Obtain your FBI file, I believe they have links on their website.
    2) Often with state level offences (maybe always) the only tracks left with the FBI is the fact that they have your fingerprints.
    3) In most cases expungements and pardons relieve the beneficiary of the need to disclose (except USCIS/CBP/ICE).
    4) When/if you get post conviction relief, be sure the FBI is notified, they will expunge everything except you fingerprints.

    Good Luck
     
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    How is that possible, if someone else was charged? He must have been also charged. A simple reckless operation can be a red flag.
     
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    the whole story doesn’t make sense.
     
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    Given what we know now, I think it kind of does. I am not a lawyer or any kind of criminal law expert by any means, but:

    Driver 1 is DUI and hit-and-runs something or someone.
    Driver 2 sees this happen and chases after Driver 1, at least to get the license plate or try to stop him, etc.
    Driver 1 goes around a curve too fast, skids off the road and hits a pole. Perhaps is injured but still alive.
    Driver 2 also goes around the curve too fast, skids off the road and hits Driver 1, fatally injuring him.
    Driver 1 was DUI but it was Driver 2's decision to chase him that resulted in the fatal injury.

    I could see this being charged as vehicular manslaughter, given my layman's understanding of the term.

    What a horrible tragedy all around. And honestly, I could see my younger self setting chase too.
     
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    So under your explanation, they would have charged a dead guy (driver 1) with DUI.
     
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    Um yeah, ok. I guess I wonder why you would even mention all that. If I was explaining for my friend, I would simply say, "He hit someone with his car, killing them." But then he wouldn't be the hero like he is in your story.

    Sorry, but I'm declaring COMPLETE BS!
     
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    Sum ting wong
     
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    We Tu Low
     
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    Avoid the clap.
     
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    I think I'm missing something.
     
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    ...like the original post and subsequent posts from the OP. Looks like he deleted them. Guess he didn't like the responses.
     
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    The short version:

    OP: Can I get a medical with a felony?

    "What's the felony?"

    OP: My "friend" killed someone accidentally.

    "That doesn't make sense."

    OP:
     
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