B-17 Down at Bradley Int'l Airport

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    So horrible. Hope everyone is going to be OK.
     
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    That much fire...not promising. Those airplanes were not built for quick egress. Sigh.
     
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    News is showing foam still being shot and the tail is clearly visible with fire damage.
     
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    Local witness on one of the news stations said it tried to take off, looked like it diddnt have enough power and when trying to land again hit a fuel farm. Take it with a grain of salt as the news stations around here are horrible at acurately reporting aviation stories
     
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    Bradley Intl Airport@Bradley_Airport


    We can confirm that there was an accident involving a Collings Foundation World War II aircraft this morning at Bradley Airport. We have an active fire and rescue operation underway. The airport is closed. We will issue further updates as information becomes available.

    Sounds like Nine-O-Nine is going to be a loss. 3 on board were taken to the hospital, so hopefully they had non life-threatening injuries.
     
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    I hope the crew is ok.

    That very B-17 was in my neck of the woods just a few weeks ago.
     
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    45CEC2F7-2447-4F0E-8AF4-7C8867AAF38F.jpeg Man I hate to see that. Went up with The Collings Foundation years ago.
     
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    I just saw this airplane in Nashua, NH on Saturday. It's a sad day, hopefully those who were in the airplane will be ok.
     
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    Just toured Nine-O-Nine on Saturday at KASH. Saw a report that there were 10 on board. Prayers for all involved.
     
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    Man I think theses guys were just at our home field KHZL. A yearly staple. God bless.
     
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    Misfueled?
     
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    This is awful and it appears there are multiple fatalities. Awful. I've enjoyed seeing this aircraft every year when it comes to KFNL in Fort Collins, Colorado. Here is from earlier this year.
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    Live broadcast would not discuss victims or numbers. Airplane had 3 crew and 10 pax with one person on ground possible. Original report had six injured. Latest is. 14 injured.
     
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    10 people is/was the wartime full compliment. I was scheduled to fly on that plane (“909”) back in the early 90s but when I pulled into the airport, one engine was being removed from the wing and a replacement was ready to be installed. Sad to say I could not wait the estimated 6 to 8 hours for this to be done.

    I almost had a flight on the 909!



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    I hope not. I really, really, really hope not, because that's a failure on at least two fronts.
     
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    I got a ride on 909 10 years ago as a birthday gift. Thoughts to all families involved.
     
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    My wife and I took a ride on 909 about 3 years ago now. It was a bucket list experience. Very sad to hear lives have been lost.
     

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    Flew on 909 with a WWII Vet who had flown 23 B-17 missions in The ETO up to VE Day. We remained friends until he passed.

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    Cheers
     
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    That's the Nine-0-Nine in my avatar. I flew with them from Waco to Meacham years ago, the only non-crew person on board. They were great folks.

    Really sad to hear this, may the lost rest easy.
     
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    Hearing 13 casualties, 3 crew and 10 passengers. A witnesses reported an engine failed and they turned back. Three engines should have been fine, maybe stalled it?
     
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    I can't guess. The pilots are all skilled ex-military or airline pilots as far as I know.
     
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    LiveATC seems to suggest the #4 engine was on fire.
     
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    The Hartford Courant is reporting five fatalities, and that the cockpit has not been reached due to crash damage. They also say seven are receiving medical care, but that totals more than the reported number of crew and pax on board.

    I recall watching the video of the Liberty Belle when it had an inflight fuel fed fire and the crew put it down in a cornfield. It took just a couple of minutes for the fire to destroy the aircraft.

     
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    I've flown on that aircraft. This makes me very sad. Rest in peace, passengers, pilots, airplane.

    Currently reporting 5 fatal, 14 total casualties (one on the ground). Severe burns, unsurprisingly.

    Early reports are an engine power loss at around 800', return to the airfield. There, the plane lost control on touchdown, crashed into a deicing facility. This was reportedly near the departure end of the runway but also reports of the plane at treetop level before the attempted landing. Mind you, this is very, very early and prone to error.

    EDIT: looks like there are reports of at least three with non-life-threatening injuries, so thankfully, it does not appear that all 14 casualties are fatal.
     
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    I want to add something about how important the Collings Foundation is to keeping the memories of the past alive.

    This happened during another visit of their bombers to KDAL. I was there to fly on their B-25, Tondelayo, and while waiting, I was standing in front of Nine-O-Nine. A tall elderly man walked up, looked closely at the B-17, turned, and said to me "The last time I was in a B-17, I left it in a parachute".

    His name was Austin D. Rinne. He was assigned to the 546th Sqdn, 384th Bomb Group, Grafton Underwood, England, and the pilot of B-17G #42-31058 'Liberty Run'.

    He and his squadron were attacking V-1 launching sites under construction near the French coast on February 25, 1944, when his plane was hit by flak. The crew bailed out, and the man I was speaking to spent the rest of the war as a POW at Stalag Luft I. Other Americans at the camp included USAAF POW commander Hubert Zemke, Bob Hoover, and Frances "Gabby" Gabreski.

    The camp was liberated by the Russians on May 1, 1945.

    I was practically speechless while listening to this old warrior tell his tale. It's one of my favorite memories.

    His obituary further describes the man:

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/obi...ne-world-war-ii-pilot-survived-german-prison/

    His ashes are interred at Arlington National Cemetery.

    After he died, I contacted his son and emailed him photographs of his father I took that day, standing tall and erect in front of Nine-O-Nine
     
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    Sad. I really prefer the old airplanes flying instead of in museums, but there’s an inherent risk when they need to fly constantly to fundraise. :-(
     
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    Damn, took off on rwy 6 called to land 5 minutes into the flight with a problem, circled around to land on 6, impacted "ils stanchions" and veered to the right where it stopped. (From tv news report NTSB news conference) So close to being a non-event. RIP.
     
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    I guess 7 fatal now. RIP. Some pics of 909 I took during better times.

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    Rest in Peace.
     
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    Crew reported a problem with #4. I saw an interview with an eyewitness (who sounded fairly credible) specifically say that the engine closest to the copilot (which would be #3) was sputtering and smoking.
     
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    Damn sad to see. A living testimonial to the courage of the crews and the will of our people to support them has been destroyed.
     
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    Oh man.. this is a tragedy on many levels
     
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    Yeah, despite these types of accidents, count me in the group that would still like to see a small contingent flying. Plenty of B-17s sitting in museums.
     
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    Just saw this beautiful plane at Groton (KGON) a couple of weeks back... we are fortunate to view these incredibly historic planes (pilots and crew) fly into our local airports thanks to groups like the Collins Foundation. Tragic.
     
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