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“AviationDB (AviationDB) has purposely removed public-facing aircraft and airman search tools from its homepage due to privacy changes and concerns regarding personally identifiable information (PII). [1]”

What can I use now? FAA database only lists current ownership.
 
ateamer said:
All of that should be blocked, anyway. Why do you need to know?
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I said to find information where the aircraft spent time at before purchasing. I’ve seen too many western planes that lived a majority of life in coastal Florida.
Something to due with corrosion.
 
bonefishpete said:
I said to find information where the aircraft spent time at before purchasing. I’ve seen too many western planes that lived a majority of life in coastal Florida.
Something to due with corrosion.
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Title search
 
yeah, basically now you're limited to doing a review of logbooks in order to establish that domicile history metadata. If the seller isn't now forthcoming with digitized aircraft/engine logs, it's a non-starter.

Racerx said:
Title search
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That's a good point, forgot about the title search companies. Gets spendy real quick when you're sifting through dozens of listings only for the precursory metadata in question, before even getting to a position to make an offer. Personally, absent aviationDB, I'd have to rely on the sellers forwarding the logs on a tire-kicker basis at this point. Otherwise good luck with the bait-n-switch mx-obfuscating listing (aka TAP/public listing standard). I don't need to spend thousands of dollars of wasted lookie loo time and out of state appointments just to validate the listing is bait n switch trash, where that metadata accomplishes the same thing. This is just more illiquidity introduced into the market, which is fine I guess, let it all sit at this point, it's mostly pocket listings transacting at this point.
 
CARES has what I think you think you're asking for under aircraft services/aircraft records. Neither an aircraft nor airman registry search will tell you where an airplane is based or operated, only the address the registration holder/pilot provided, if not blocked by the registrant. My airplane has, on occasion, been based >1000mi from the address on the registration (which was unblocked at the time) and on my pilot certs (blocked before I owned an airplane).

Personally, I'm glad the FAA is at least making some progress, however small, in blocking release of PII. If that means someone will pass over my airplane if or when it comes up for sale, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

Nauga,
under a rock
 
nauga said:
CARES has what I think you think you're asking for under aircraft services/aircraft records. Neither an aircraft nor airman registry search will tell you where an airplane is based or operated, only the address the registration holder/pilot provided, if not blocked by the registrant. My airplane has, on occasion, been based >1000mi from the address on the registration (which was unblocked at the time) and on my pilot certs (blocked before I owned an airplane).

Personally, I'm glad the FAA is at least making some progress, however small, in blocking release of PII. If that means someone will pass over my airplane if or when it comes up for sale, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

Nauga,
under a rock
[/flying. even the airport it's probably based at.

If we are talking single engine piston aircraft the owners address especially if it's someone's name usually tells you where the plane is based except for corporate names with a Delaware address.
You can back that up with ADSB information that usually shows where it's been flying even where it is based at.
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If we are talking single engine piston aircraft the owners address especially if it's someone's name usually tells you where the plane is based except for corporate names with a Delaware address.
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Maybe, maybe not. That being the case, registration history is available directly from the FAA through CARES, so for free you can find out where the airplane was registered through time.

You can back that up with ADSB information that usually shows where it's been flying even where it is based at.
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Maybe for recent history. If you're looking at an airplane more than ~10 years old it's going to be a lot harder.

Nauga,
who CARES
 
I have the FAA registration databases for the past 26 years. PM me an N-number and I'll do some digging.

Ron Wanttaja
 
Isn't AviationDB run by a PoAer?

My old brain says @chartbundle but something tells me maybe that person ran, oh I dunno, maybe chartbundle. :rofl:

Anyone remember who it is/was?

Either way, I hate that it appears to have become significantly less useful. I really liked being able to see and search older records.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
I don't see any way to access anything there except for records that I have personally created (reg for my airplane).

How do I search an N number there?
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Sign in

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Aircraft Services

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Then:

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Then:

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Then:

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Select the above, then at the bottom of the page you'll see:

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Then select "view" to see the pdf, or "download" if you want to save it.

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Do the same for airworthiness files.
 
Thanks! Oddly enough, I got it into a state last night that looked very different than that, and everything I could click warned me I was leaving CARES. Now I don't know what I did. Signed out and back in and now it works.
 
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