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Pre-Flight
Just heard a bulletin that Sky Marshals subdued a man trying to ignite his shoes on a United flight tonight from Reagan National to Denver.
United flight 663.
United flight 663.
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I am so NOT looking forward to the knee-jerk reaction to this one.
I thought that had already happened...The knee jerk reaction will be to crucify all the "rag heads". Then we will know that Al-Queida has really utterly and totally won.
What do you envision?
And how would you feel about diplomatic immunity being removed from an American diplomat say serving in Saudi Arabia when that repressive government finds out that the American may be a sorcerer because they believe in astrology and then wants to put him to death?This is one case where I'm ok with the knee jerk. The knee jerk needs to be "End diplomatic immunity."
I see no reason for its existence at the moment anyway.
And how would you feel about diplomatic immunity being removed from an American diplomat say serving in Saudi Arabia when that repressive government finds out that the American may be a sorcerer because they believe in astrology and then wants to put him to death?
Diplomatic Immunity protects our people as much as it protects theirs. It stops fake charges from being filed by hostile governments to diplomats serving there and it unfortunately is abused by some.
It does appear that in this case it was just a diplomat being a jerk and not a terrorist. So the issue will be avoided. Depending on how upset we officially are, we may ask that Qatar remove the diplomat or we may revoke his standing and force his departure.
I thought that had already happened...
And how would you feel about diplomatic immunity being removed from an American diplomat say serving in Saudi Arabia when that repressive government finds out that the American may be a sorcerer because they believe in astrology and then wants to put him to death?
Diplomatic Immunity protects our people as much as it protects theirs. It stops fake charges from being filed by hostile governments to diplomats serving there and it unfortunately is abused by some.
It does appear that in this case it was just a diplomat being a jerk and not a terrorist. So the issue will be avoided. Depending on how upset we officially are, we may ask that Qatar remove the diplomat or we may revoke his standing and force his departure.
Qatar diplomat. Most diplomats get to bypass TSA. And they get immunity - in most cases, best you can do is expel them.
I would be fine with some sort of diplomatic clause that holds them accountable for crimes that are crimes in their homeland. But if a diplomat comes to America, murders someone, then is arrested, he can claim diplomatic immunity and be free. That ain't right.
HUH? Wrote where? I was responding to Nick.Again read what I wrote.
This really just highlights the power of addiction more then anything else. Obviously he couldn't go 4+ hrs without a smoke then lied about it when caught.
Now he's got a political incident on his hands and probably stalled (no pun intended) his career just to get a smoke.
NO WAY to the former and they already do for the latter. But those that have catered to smokers quickly went out of business.Maybe they should go back to allowing "smoking sections" on airliners. Or allow entire airlines to market themselves to smokers.
That is actually the case. Diplomats are subject to the laws of their home country, not the host country.
If a US diplomat kills someone while overseas on assignment, they are subject to trial and imprisonment or execution back here in the US.
It did? Where, pray tell?
NO WAY to the former and they already do for the latter. But those that have catered to smokers quickly went out of business.
Negative!
The ones that were supposed to cater to smokers were unable to do business because its illegal to smoke on a part 121 carrier. It wasn't lack of business, it was the ******ned hippies that struck again (the same ones that got smoking banned in bars of all places).
You obviously do not recall the airline FreedomAir or something like that. It went all smoking but not enough business to sustain iteself.Negative!
The ones that were supposed to cater to smokers were unable to do business because its illegal to smoke on a part 121 carrier. It wasn't lack of business, it was the ******ned hippies that struck again (the same ones that got smoking banned in bars of all places).
You obviously do not recall the airline FreedomAir or something like that. It went all smoking but not enough business to sustain iteself.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...WAtAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lNoFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1321,6900843
I don't know why you're blaming the "hippies", the ones I knew smoked all kinds of things...edit: even if it got overturned, somehow, the hippies would still win
The prices were almost exactly the same as the other carriers. I have no idea if it was 121 or 135 but it was running regularly scheduled service, at least according to the aticle, it also was running at the time when airlines were strugling with the smoking and no smoking thing. There were other airlines that were not subject to the FAA that also tried these things and they all too failed.FreedomAir was 135, and extremely expensive because it was on demand.
I think it may be safer to say that sometimes hate the reality that you live in. Gherry pretty much nailed it about the smoking on airliners thing. The public demanded it, the whole Cartman hippie rant from you is way off the mark. I know lots of smokers who hated smoking on airlines.Sometimes I hate this country.
FreedomAir was 135, and extremely expensive because it was on demand.
edit: even if it got overturned, somehow, the hippies would still win. Imagine a canceled flight, and the only remaining flight to a person's destination is on "Smokair." Guess who's suddenly going to be offended that his choice of airlines makes him slightly uncomfortable. Or worse, he books the flight on Smokair to begin with because it was cheaper.
Sometimes I hate this country.
And how would you feel about diplomatic immunity being removed from an American diplomat say serving in Saudi Arabia when that repressive government finds out that the American may be a sorcerer because they believe in astrology and then wants to put him to death?
Diplomatic Immunity protects our people as much as it protects theirs. It stops fake charges from being filed by hostile governments to diplomats serving there and it unfortunately is abused by some.
It does appear that in this case it was just a diplomat being a jerk and not a terrorist. So the issue will be avoided. Depending on how upset we officially are, we may ask that Qatar remove the diplomat or we may revoke his standing and force his departure.
Nor am I hippie. In those days, whenever possible got on an airplane in first class so the majority of the smoke could be avoided. By the time we landed, sinuses and eardrums were so stopped up the descent became a screaming hell.Nick:
I'm not a hippie but I was delighted when the airlines went No Smoking. I remember as a child with asthma having to travel by airline. It really was intolerable. Then in my 20s my job was pretty much non-stop airline travel for work (aerospace). Again, it was really difficult for me. I used to get off the plane, go direct to the hotel, take a shower ASAP and send my clothes out to the laundry or find the closest do-it-yourself laundry (forget this Business dress travel crap...I always travel in jeans and tshirts)