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It's not a glitch, it's a hack.
If I'm right it's a vulnerability that's been in the system since the original Sabre System days.
What's the line? "If you really want to screw things up use a computer."???
Not anymore. If you really want to screw things up, use a hacker.
Good thing I don't own any AA stock.
 
Saw a news article about this on CNBC. They quoted an AA Captain saying something about the computer turning into Santa. This is going to cost AA some serious coin to fix.
 
Reminds me of The Bobs from Office Space......They fixed the ‘glitch’ that allowed everyone to take off for the holidays.....but haven’t actually solved the issue of not having enough pilots on the schedule for the flights needed.


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Glad I am (supposed to be) flying on American for Christmas this year, that is right after returning from my Honeymoon....once again on American Airlines.....
 
All the media keep repeating this "...150% of regular pay" for pilots willing to take un-filled flights. This cracks me up! If my boss wanted me to work a holiday I wasn't scheduled to work, it would cost time-and-a-half in addition to the 8 hours of "holiday comp time" - no matter how the schedule got screwed up.

So, whats the big deal about this "150% of pay" thing? They say that like its an unusual amount....
 
wilkersk said:
All the media keep repeating this "...150% of regular pay" for pilots willing to take un-filled flights. This cracks me up! If my boss wanted me to work a holiday I wasn't scheduled to work, it would cost time-and-a-half in addition to the 8 hours of "holiday comp time" - no matter how the schedule got screwed up.

So, whats the big deal about this "150% of pay" thing? They say that like its an unusual amount....
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Now if it was 150% more...that's a different story.
 
TRocket said:
Now if it was 150% more...that's a different story.
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the issue is that the contract does not allow the company to up and change the way it pays to suit their needs unilaterally. they did not even try to contact the APA and discuss the issue with the union. so, as the APA is stating, there is no contractual language to insure that they will pay the premium. they could after the fact, not pay it using some reason, and there is no legal recourse because there is nothing in the contract to support it. had the company come to APA asking for them to work out a solution, the APA would have worked it out and written a side agreement to make it all legal. There are still areas of the bankruptcy contract, that was a couple of years ago, that the company is refusing to implement, what makes the membership think that they will pay premium that is not in the contract?
 
I sure hope Congress people are reading this. These are the people they want to take over ATC after privatization.
 
mscard88 said:
Well if it's public why not put it out here?
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ASA: Another Slacker Aviator. Kids these days, can't be bothered to clickity click click on the ding dang interwebs! :rolleyes:

APA:
posted on November 28, 2017 18:29
On Friday, management disclosed a failure within the pilot schedule bidding system. As a result, thousands of flights currently do not have pilots assigned to fly them during the upcoming critical holiday period.

Today, management issued an update detailing the “significant holes” in the operation and unilaterally invoked a solution for crewing affected flights.

Management’s actions are in direct violation of your contract.

APA has responded by filing a Presidential Grievance (Carey Presidential Grievance No.17-187).

Because management unilaterally created their solution in violation of the contract, neither APA nor the contract can guarantee the promised payment of the premium being offered.

Important to note: By not including APA in developing collaborative solutions to this critical holiday scheduling failure, management’s actions contrast with their handling of previous scheduling failures involving other work groups. This stands in direct opposition to the company mantra of “Validating the Trust” and the stated goal of making culture a competitive advantage. Management’s actions likewise jeopardize any collaborative effort to ensure our passengers have a pilot crew to take them to their important holiday events.

AA:
Thursday, November 30, 2017, 11:20 AM

Out of the 200,000 flights American will operate in December, only a few hundred are currently unassigned to pilots. That number of open flights continues to decrease thanks to our pilots who are stepping up to the plate and picking up trips to ensure customers are taken care of. It’s another example of why we are thankful to have such an incredible team. In addition, we have more reserve pilots on hand in December than normal months and they provide us with the ability to fly many of the trips that are currently uncovered. We have not canceled any scheduled flights in December and will continue to work to ensure both our pilots and our customers are cared for.

APA:
posted on November 30, 2017 13:47
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: Captain Dennis Tajer, 847-902-8481; Gregg Overman, 817-302-2250/817-312-3901

Allied Pilots Association: “Thousands of Flights Still Unassigned”
FORT WORTH, Texas (Nov. 30, 2017) – The Allied Pilots Association is able to view in real time December flight crew assignments for American Airlines. That data does not support management’s statement regarding December flights that “only a few hundred are currently unassigned to pilots.” In fact, thousands of flights are still listed as unassigned.

We remain seriously concerned about the potential for significant schedule disruption for our passengers, pilots, and fellow employees during the critical holiday travel season.

AA:




 
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