ADHD and 1st Class Medical

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  1. bbj2004

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    Hey All

    I was prescribed Adderall after college (since 2009) and have been taking it on and off since then. A few years ago I started flying and eventually earned my PPL and got my 3rd class medical having misinterpreted the FAA's stance on the drug and the disorder. My understanding was that the FAA's stance on Adderall was similar to another substance like alcohol- that it couldn't be used while flying.

    I have started working on my IFR and it was in my research about the 1st class medical that I realized that my ADHD diagnosis and history with Adderall disqualifies my 3rd class medical and makes it impossible for me to get my 1st class medical without first going through a battery of exams to prove that it was a misdiagnosis and I don't need adderall.

    I'm looking for advice on 1. how to make this right with the FAA so I can receive my 1st class medical 2. are there any AME recommendations who are familiar with this kind of situation and could assist me.

    Any advice is greatly appreciated as I have no idea where to start...
     
  2. murphey

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    We really need some stickies for this and similar topics.
     
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    You're going to need a good AME and perhaps a lawyer do deal with the fact that you committed a felony by falsifying your existing medical application.
    Then you are going to need HIMS neuropsych to guide you through the testing battery. A good HIMS AME (like Dr. Chien) can guide you thirough this. Understand that you can't just "wish away" the diagnosis. You should have a frank discussion about whether you have a chance at getting through the testing batteries. You're talking about thousands of dollars of testing here (and you may end up having to travel as not all parts of the country have accessible approved neuropsychs). You can also expect to be grounded for an extended period as the FAA has gone off the cliff on processing times on non-revenue pilots.
     
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    You need Dr. CHIEN. Good luck.
     
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    Well that just can’t be possible! According to the faa you’re not fit to be pilot in command! But somehow you were able to safely fly and get your ppl. I just don’t get it, faa logic is full proof.
     
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    Thanks for the reply's. I'm reach out to Dr. Bruce and couple other AME's in my area and going to go from there.

    y'all fly safe
     
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    Do you mind answering my curiosity? Did you declare the ADHD condition, medication, and doctor visits on your original 3rd class application?
     
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    Obviously not. It would have been a mandatory deferral pending all the hoops he's asking about now. He's not (currently) eligible for even the third class.
     
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    I don't remember my medical questionnaire asking me if I have ADHD. Does it ask that on there or only if you are taking medication? Because if it only asks about medication and you aren't taking it then I don't think a felony has been committed.

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  10. flyingron

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    18m. Do you have medical history of "Mental disorders of any sort" You lied if you answered no. If you answered yes, your AME is criminally incompetent.
     
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    Well not me, I don't have ADHD. But anyway isn't ADHD a learning disability not a mental disorder?

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    The goal is to get everyone on a drug of some sort. If you don’t have an ailment they’ll find one for you.
     
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    You were prescribed psychoactive drugs, you have a diagnosis. It's a mental disorder, you can't weasel out by calling it a learning disability. If you're going to call Dr. B, I suggest you stop lying. He has low tolerance for it.
     
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    Lol I'm not the OP, just sayin...

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    No. It’s specifically a mental disorder.
     
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    Easy there, Ron. Where did @p1l0t lie about something? Might you be confusing him with @bbj2004 ?
     
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    bbj: I think that email was from you.....for the guys here, if you present a certifiable situation to the agency, generally past transgression (x1, not x 7) are forgiven. You need:

    Full medical record.
    FAA medical record to the neuropsych, which has not been in your custody....
    ADD evaluation (screening battery +/- "the full boat depending on what you do)
    Negative urine test no later than the next 12:00 noon, for stimulant meds.

    If all that is present, then it's time to reapply, beg for forgiveness, and get certified.