A Successful Mission to WalMart

RJM62

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A few weeks ago I decided that it was time to change my "public" phone number, meaning the one I give to people or organizations who demand my phone number to have on file, but to whom I have no desire nor intent of ever speaking. This includes retailers, government agencies, financial institutions, ex-significant others, family members whom I don't like very much, and really pretty much everyone other than those family members whom I do like and very close friends.

My public number is a MagicJack number because it's cheap and easy to change when it gets too polluted by telemarketers, spammers, scammers, and other miscreants, most of whom presumably got it either from one of the times my PII was hacked, or from one of the companies that swore they'd never share it with anyone. I change it every two to four years, on average. They hit me up for $10.00 every time I change it, and the change is effective about 30 seconds later.

MagicJack's voice quality used to absolutely suck, which didn't bother me because I almost never answer it anyway. But it's gotten a lot better over the past few years. With a bit of diddling with the QOS settings in DD-WRT, it actually works pretty well nowadays. So when I changed the number this most recent time, I also decided to purchase a new phone for it with a cordless handset for the living room, this way my guests whose cell phones have no signal here can use it.

I wanted a halfway decent phone with a built-in answering machine and at least one cordless remote handset; but because I'm a tightwad, I also wanted to spend less than $30.00 on it. So I scoured my usual sources and found that Wally World had a VTech CS6829-26 on sale for, at the time I checked their site, $27.76. Their regular online price was $39.99.

Better yet, that purchase gave me a third reason to go to Kingston. I try to have at least three reasons to make the trip, and I already had two. I wanted to put some money on my AT&T prepaid cell phone (for some reason, they don't tack on sales tax when you use the in-store kiosks), and I also wanted to get gas in an Exxon or Mobil station so I could use my CarCare1 card to pay for it and keep the card alive (they cancel zero-balance accounts for inactivity if you don't use them at least once or twice a year).

I printed up the page with the sale price from Walmart's site and set out on my journey. Walmart will honor their Web site prices in-store even if the store price is higher, but you have to ask for the lower price. They'll actually look it up on the site if you ask them to, but I usually print up the page anyway. In this case, the in-store price was a whopping $44.99, $5.00 more than the regular online price. So I presented the page from the site with the sale price of $27.76.

But something had happened between my checking the item online and actually arriving at Walmart: The price had been further reduced to $25.70!

"Woo-hoo!" I exclaimed, "I'll take it!" The bored clerk's face took on an expression of amusement at my excitement, and she rang me up. For a committed tightwad, saving money becomes something like a sport, and I was glad to share the thrill of victory with a spectator. But it gets better: With the 1.5 percent back from the plastic I used, the final cost was $25.32, which comes out to a $19.67 discount on a regularly $44.99 item. That's pretty decent even by tightwad standards.

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The phone is now all set up and works very well. The call quality using the MagicJack is somewhere is okay, meaning that the the dynamic range and overall tone are merely adequate, but there are no problems with static, echos, or breaking up. It's more than adequate for the mission, which is mainly as a black hole for incoming calls from people I don't care to talk to and the occasional outgoing call.

My mission also saved me $3.60 on the sales tax I didn't pay on my cell phone by paying at the kiosk; plus it kept the CarCare1 card alive for at least another six months, which should result in at least $100.00 in rebates when I replace my tires this coming September. So I calculate my total current and prospective savings from yesterday's mission to be a whopping $123.27.

Life is good.

Rich
 
:eek: and I actually read the whole thing. :D
 
I'm sorry, there is no such thing as a successful mission to walmart unless it includes removing mass quantities of sub-humans from the gene pool.
 
I love my Magic jack. I use it the same way you do, for the same reasons. But I have four 2-line RCA phones, because my ISP package includes a VOIP phone line.
 
I'm sorry, there is no such thing as a successful mission to walmart unless it includes removing mass quantities of sub-humans from the gene pool.

It's a philosophical success, Ed.

I'm a Libertarian, so I don't believe in a lot of government controls. But that means that consumers have to exert the controls, which to me means constantly exerting downward pressure on prices by NEVER paying full price. "Full price means over-priced" is the mantra that I teach my proteges. (Yeah, I actually have proteges.) Full price is the price that the manufacturer wants, and it is the consumer's responsibility to NEVER give the manufacturer the price they want.

So yesterday was a successful trip because I saved a significant percentage (42.9 percent, to be exact) compared to what the manufacturer (or maybe the retailer in this case) wanted for the item. I forced the price way down for this one little purchase. And that is a success.

Today I followed up with another battle in my war against high prices: a trip to Price Chopper.

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I like Price Chopper for a lot of reasons, among them being that their regular prices really aren't bad. They're certainly better than anyone else around here. But more importantly, they don't play deceptive games like raising the prices a week before a sale so the "sale" price is just the regular price, or placing sale signs in front of displays of non-sale items. They also have clean stores, plenty of parking, are said to treat their employees reasonably well by retail standards, and have a reasonably generous fuel rewards program.

In short, I basically like Price Chopper. I also think that their own vig is probably fair judging by their generally low prices. So my goal for any visit to Price Chopper is to save, at a minimum, a mere 30 percent from the regular prices. For retailers whose regular prices are higher (such as the FoodTown franchise nearby me), the quota is much higher (45 percent in the case of the FoodTown store). If I don't achieve my defined quota for the retailer in question, the shopping mission is a failure.

So I plan my Price Chopper shopping list so I will save at least 30 percent. Price Chopper, of course, doesn't give a rat's ass because the sales are manufacturer-subsidized; and in the case of Price Chopper, the manufacturers, not the retailer, are my adversaries. I think Price Chopper's margins are most likely fair. It's the manufacturers that I am targeting. Price Chopper is merely the battlefield. The manufacturers are the opposing army.

My savings today on my mission to Price Chopper were $60.63 from a total bill of $171.26, which comes out to 35.4 percent.

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So it wasn't phenomenally successful, but the mission wasn't a failure. My goal is 30 percent, and I saved 35.4 percent. That's quite respectable, but not bragging rights territory.

Yesterday's visit, on the other hand, was a huge success, even though the amount saved at Walmart was lower, because the percentage saved was higher. Yesterday's savings at Walmart (not including the 1.5 percent back from the credit card) was 42.9 percent, which is huge, especially for Walmart. My savings quota at Walmart is only 10 percent because their prices are already low and represent quite a bit of their own squeezing of manufacturers. So I accomplished more than 400 percent of my quota yesterday, making it a victory on a par with the Battle of Yorktown.

It's a war. That's how I see it. Manufacturers try to squeeze consumers, and consumers have the obligation to resist. The only way to do this is to simply refuse to pay what the manufacturers want. There are also other rules that advanced warriors can and should adopt (for example, setting and adhering to maximum acceptable prices for particular products), but simply NEVER paying full price is a good way to start.

So yeah, it's about saving money. But more importantly, it's about exerting downward price pressure. It's about fulfilling the consumer's obligation to reduce prices by withdrawing demand. Capitalism only works when consumers do their part. So although I often refer to myself as a tightwad, I'm really a soldier in a perpetual war to keep prices low.

As a side benefit, however, my service as a soldier also also allows me to live a pretty good life for a guy who only works about three or four hours a day, on average. I'm able to have expensive hobbies and very little debt because I pinch every last penny until it bleeds, even though pinching pennies is the means to an end and not the end itself.

Rich
 
I love my Magic jack. I use it the same way you do, for the same reasons. But I have four 2-line RCA phones, because my ISP package includes a VOIP phone line.

MagicJack really has come a long way. The sound quality is a bit thin, but they've solved the static, stutter, and echo problems. I allocate it 128 kbps min / 256 kbps max, up and down, and it's perfectly usable within that range.

Rich
 
I didn't read the OP. Too long. But I did count the paragraphs.

I think it's wonderful that Walmart shoppers can write ten paragraphs, just to warm up.
 
Can I get your number? I have a deal I'm sure you will want to get in on.
 
MagicJack really has come a long way. The sound quality is a bit thin, but they've solved the static, stutter, and echo problems. I allocate it 128 kbps min / 256 kbps max, up and down, and it's perfectly usable within that range.

Rich
I have used a Magic Jack as a "Home Phone" for a number of years, and have been quite happy with it. I even had two for awhile when I was working across the country from home, and used them to keep in contact.
Worked great. Recently I had occasion to use the "International" service. My Daughter is in South America for awhile, and communicating is a problem. We have used VoIP services like Whatsapp - and they work -
but need solid data links on both ends. She, unfortunately, has to make do with a flaky WiFi setup where she lives - so talking is problematical. The Magic Jack International service to her cell phone (set up on the
local network where she lives) works great - but costs 40 cents per minute (which adds up quickly). In the process of "recharging" my International account I noticed that Magic Jack now has a "MagicApp" for cell
phones. They claim (in their website) that Magic Jack and Magic App users can talk to each other across the world for free. I have tried repeatedly to make that work without success. Neither their Instructions, Help
functions, or online chat can give me any reasonable directions as to how to make it work - or tell me what I am doing wrong. I even got and tried a "Magic Number" - to no avail.

Anybody out there had any better luck with setting up a Magic Jack link overseas?

Dave
 
Support is not and never has been MagicJack's strong point, but their forums are pretty helpful. Have you checked there?

Rich
 
Instead of MagicJack, I set up an Asterisk box at home and have a SIP trunk to a VoIP provider (I use voip.ms). The build I'm using is a pfSense package with a broken IAX2 module, otherwise I'd peer with them via IAX2. The DID costs me less than a dollar a month and calls are a fraction of a penny per minute.
 
Huh??? Just answer the caller ID's you want. Seems like a waste to me. We have a home phone that came with the cable. Never did plug the phone in. That's even a better selection.
 
Huh??? Just answer the caller ID's you want. Seems like a waste to me. We have a home phone that came with the cable. Never did plug the phone in. That's even a better selection.

The problem with that is that once in a blue moon, somewhat important calls do come in to my "public" number from entities that I nonetheless do not want to have my cell number; and usually those calls come from numbers that I don't recognize.

Financial institutions are the biggest group. I have received a handful of important calls from financial institutions over the course of my adult life. But I've also gotten several bazillion calls from financial institutions trying to sell me other products that they offer. Once in a great while, I'm interested in what they're selling. Usually, not so much. But either way, I most certainly I don't want them calling me on my cell phone to pitch their services when I'm out and about.

Rich
 
Anybody out there had any better luck with setting up a Magic Jack link overseas?
Yes. Once you register a MJ in the US, you can plug it in anywhere in the world with a decent internet connection. If you use a dial-up modem, I don't think it will work, but will work on any broadband connection. It will of course have a US number.

Once you register a new MJ, you can also use the MJ app with it. So buy a new MJ, register it. Then send your daughter the login details and she will be able to use the app.

My wife has family overseas. After buying $5-10 prepaid phone cards every week or two for years, I bought a MJ, registered it here, then took it down there on our next trip. Plugged it in and works like a charm. I figure my wife spent a least $200/year in these phone cards. I got the 5 year plan on MJ for $99 (I think they raised the price recently).
 
Well, I think I've finally changed the number everywhere it needs to be changed. There was only one snafu, and that was Micro Center (Wells Fargo). Their Web site requires that they confirm that particular profile change by sending a code to the number that's already on file, which is pretty stupid if you think about it. I suspect that most people who change their number no longer have access to the old one after the change. They also had my home number listed as my business number for whatever reason, so I couldn't use that one.

I had to call them on the phone to make the change. They were pretty nice about it, especially considering that Wells Fargo has yet to make a penny on me. I use their card as a convenience to keep business purchases at Micro Center separate for tax purposes. There's no annual fee for the card, and they've never made a penny in interest on me.

Rich
 
Yes. Once you register a MJ in the US, you can plug it in anywhere in the world with a decent internet connection. If you use a dial-up modem, I don't think it will work, but will work on any broadband connection. It will of course have a US number.

Once you register a new MJ, you can also use the MJ app with it. So buy a new MJ, register it. Then send your daughter the login details and she will be able to use the app.

My wife has family overseas. After buying $5-10 prepaid phone cards every week or two for years, I bought a MJ, registered it here, then took it down there on our next trip. Plugged it in and works like a charm. I figure my wife spent a least $200/year in these phone cards. I got the 5 year plan on MJ for $99 (I think they raised the price recently).

OK thanks for the info. I will do that with my second MJ - which is idle at present. My daughter's contract is coming to an end next month - but knowing her, there will be another. I will plan to send her off
with Magic Jack in hand next time.

Dave
 
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