A new shop.

[Tom-D]

I bought one of these this week in anticipation of moving all the tools and equipment home and into a new building behind the house. cuts the commute cost down a lot.

http://usbuildingsdirect.com/a-model-steel-buildings.htm

It is the "A" model, 30' wide by 20' long. on a cement pad, with lights and a 220 service for the machines. Just so we can provide the aircraft repair service we have been doing with out leaving home. The 600 foot floor area plus the 2 250 foot storage areas over head, should be large enough to recover wings and fuselages, or assemble aircraft kits. plus the engine rebuilds I do.

 

[somorris]

Those look nice, Tom. But how are you going to get the airplanes in the backyard?

 

[Tom-D]

Those look nice, Tom. But how are you going to get the airplanes in the backyard?

Piece by piece, I no longer will be doing complete aircraft restorations.

 

[somorris]

Shoot. I hate to hear that. We need people like you trying to keep our old airplanes in the air!

Good luck in your new venture!

 

[Tom-D]

Shoot. I hate to hear that. We need people like you trying to keep our old airplanes in the air!

Good luck in your new venture!

bring me the piece that's broke. Many of my customers already do, I've been doing this out of my garage for a long time, but when I have a project as large as the Fairchild fuselage the car sets out. with the new shop, the garage can be a garage, and all the stinky stuff won't come into the house.

Not a new venture, just a new building.

 

[Checkout_my_Six]

make it 15-20 feet longer.....it'll never be big enough.

 

[Clark1961]

Looks like a great workspace. Plenty of room with no framing.

Doing anything for heat? I just bought a little (30k to 60k BTU) propane heater to use at the hangar or in the garage. Should have done it years ago, oh well.

 

[Tom-D]

make it 15-20 feet longer.....it'll never be big enough.

I wished I could, set backs allowed in the city, will not allow it.

 

[Tom-D]

Looks like a great workspace. Plenty of room with no framing.

Doing anything for heat? I just bought a little (30k to 60k BTU) propane heater to use at the hangar or in the garage. Should have done it years ago, oh well.

We are on a city gas main, I will probably go with a radiant gas heater.

 

[denverpilot]

Sounds nice, Tom. I saw that company when I was shopping around for our maybe, possibly, might do it, future barn/workshop.

Around here there seems to be a leaning toward Cleary stuff, and I'm wondering if they're doing deeper discounts than their online pricing or what, considering how many of them there are.

There's also a Cleary storefront where I am assuming they're trying to keep a number of crews in jobs, not to far down the road. The speed at which they go up is incredible.

Even the Fire Dept just did a joint facility with two jurisdictions on a road boundary with a Cleary. I'm sure that was a bid process.

One family just put up a gorgeous all custom designed and built wood structure too. That couldn't have been cheap. Took a while to go up but it looks really nice.

 

[Gerhardt]

That's a nice-looking building. Of course, we're going to want pictures of the real thing once it's up.

 

[SCCutler]

Tom, I had a neighbor who placed one of these in his back yard, and I was amazed at how quickly it went up, and how tight it was. Great buildings.

 

[denverpilot]

Argh! I just noticed their website says "Aircraft Hangers". Tom, call 'em up and tell them they're spelling it wrong. Haha.

 

[Alexb2000]

Those are a ***** to get past the city IME. Absolutely impossible to build in any incorporated area around DFW. I think its B.S., but we have a lot of citizens who want to create the perfect little utopias where no one does anything except computer work while drinking frapachino lattes.

 

[SCCutler]

Those are a ***** to get past the city IME. Absolutely impossible to build in any incorporated area around DFW. I think its B.S., but we have a lot of citizens who want to create the perfect little utopias where no one does anything except computer work while drinking frapachino lattes.

Heh.

My neighbor did his in Dallas, near Preston & Royal. Know it was properly permitted, I referred his concrete and electrical guys to him.

No HOA there, of course.

Unfortunately, I cannot tell you to go look at it- he sold about 3 years ago, and his 3700 sqft home, as well as the shop behind it, are long gone, and what appears to be about a $3M plus (construction cost, my guess) house is going up in its place. Heck, they tore mine down, too.

 

[Tom-D]

Those are a ***** to get past the city IME. Absolutely impossible to build in any incorporated area around DFW. I think its B.S., but we have a lot of citizens who want to create the perfect little utopias where no one does anything except computer work while drinking frapachino lattes.

Fortunately we are not restricted by any HOA, the City building dept engineer approving the building permit only required a raised engineering stamp by a WA. approved architect. that comes with the blue prints from the manufacturer. add 400 bucks.

 

[Alexb2000]

Heh.

My neighbor did his in Dallas, near Preston & Royal. Know it was properly permitted, I referred his concrete and electrical guys to him.

No HOA there, of course.

Unfortunately, I cannot tell you to go look at it- he sold about 3 years ago, and his 3700 sqft home, as well as the shop behind it, are long gone, and what appears to be about a $3M plus (construction cost, my guess) house is going up in its place. Heck, they tore mine down, too.

How long ago was this done? You used to be able to do things like this,because a lot of people wanted shops in their back yard at a reasonable price. That generation has retired, the "new" generation is worried about property values being effected by an "eyesore" like a shop building.

My neighborhood is going through that change as well, people are buying $3-500K houses, tearing them down and building $1.5M dollar houses on them so they're in it $2M. The city loves it (and defends it) because the taxes go up to $60K per year from maybe $10K on the same lot. I should go ask one of those guys if they would mind a quonset hut behind my place.

 

[denverpilot]

Those are a ***** to get past the city IME. Absolutely impossible to build in any incorporated area around DFW. I think its B.S., but we have a lot of citizens who want to create the perfect little utopias where no one does anything except computer work while drinking frapachino lattes.

I was downright shocked when my little sis took her significant architectural expertise and went into working for the City of Houston. She had me fooled last Christmas that she was enjoying her newfound power of annoyance in making folks maintain historical buildings properly there, and I really thought she had gone full-government-bureaucrat on us.

This year she announces she's leaving the City stuff, it's too boring, too political, and going to work for a private architectural firm as their expert on how to deal with the City while maintaining historical buildings. They wanted her badly because she's seen the inside of the beast and knew how it operates. Hahaha. I was laughing out loud when I got the email.

Sounded much more like the sis I grew up with, than "government bureaucrat".

 

[SCCutler]

How long ago was this done? You used to be able to do things like this,because a lot of people wanted shops in their back yard at a reasonable price. That generation has retired, the "new" generation is worried about property values being effected by an "eyesore" like a shop building.

My neighborhood is going through that change as well, people are buying $3-500K houses, tearing them down and building $1.5M dollar houses on them so they're in it $2M. The city loves it (and defends it) because the taxes go up to $60K per year from maybe $10K on the same lot. I should go ask one of those guys if they would mind a quonset hut behind my place.

Built, probably, eight years ago? Maybe ten.

It was barely visible from the street - you'd have had to look very hard. It was also on a lot which is around a full acre.

 

[wsuffa]

I was downright shocked when my little sis took her significant architectural expertise and went into working for the City of Houston. She had me fooled last Christmas that she was enjoying her newfound power of annoyance in making folks maintain historical buildings properly there, and I really thought she had gone full-government-bureaucrat on us.

This year she announces she's leaving the City stuff, it's too boring, too political, and going to work for a private architectural firm as their expert on how to deal with the City while maintaining historical buildings. They wanted her badly because she's seen the inside of the beast and knew how it operates. Hahaha. I was laughing out loud when I got the email.

Sounded much more like the sis I grew up with, than "government bureaucrat".

That's the way the revolving door works in DC....

 

[Tom-D]

The City of Oak Harbor busted all the HOAs when the city adopted the ordinance that the HOAs can not adopt any rule that is higher or more restrictive than the city or county codes.

My building inspector told me to tell the HOA to set down and shut up, they can not tell me what I can build.

 

[denverpilot]

That's the way the revolving door works in DC....

Huh. Good point. LOL. Sis is milking it. Cracks me up. She's a millennial and mostly couldn't care in the slightest about politics or most of the drivel our society spews.

It's fascinating to watch her decision making. She does things for all sorts of reasons that make no sense to older folk. I don't have a clue what her real goals are, but it's interesting to watch. She was always the smart one in the family.