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I'm filling out an 8710 form for a checkride and I'm wondering what to put in the cross country sections. Do I put all time when landing at a different airport, or only the >50nm XC time?
since you are applying for a cert/rating then put the >50 nm time. I believe that definition is in 61.1.
since you are applying for a cert/rating then put the >50 nm time. I believe that definition is in 61.1.
Thanks, that's what I figured. Will that cause a problem if my logbook has XC time recorded the other way (i.e. the 8710 and my logbook won't match)?
I'm filling out an 8710 form for a checkride and I'm wondering what to put in the cross country sections. Do I put all time when landing at a different airport, or only the >50nm XC time?
The time in flights not involving a landing more than 50nm from the original point of departure does not meet the "appropriate regulation" for PP-A, IR-A, or CP-A, so don't enter it on an 8710-1 under XC time for those certificates/ratings. However, you may want to keep another column in your log for flights that went more than 50nm from the OPD whether there was a landing or not, so you can use it later on to meet the ATP experience requirement, and then you'd enter that on the 8710-1 for your ATP-Airplane ride. Finally, you could even keep a third XC column for flights with landings that are other than at the OPD but none more than 50nm from the OPD so you can use that to meet the XC requirements for Part 135 PIC if you ever go that route -- but that won't be going on an 8710-1.The minimum pilot experience required by the appropriate regulation must be entered.
As R&W said...The time in flights not involving a landing more than 50nm from the original point of departure does not meet the "appropriate regulation" for PP-A, IR-A, or CP-A, so don't enter it on an 8710-1 under XC time for those certificates/ratings. However, you may want to keep another column in your log for flights that went more than 50nm from the OPD whether there was a landing or not, so you can use it later on to meet the ATP experience requirement, and then you'd enter that on the 8710-1 for your ATP-Airplane ride. Finally, you could even keep a third XC column for flights with landings that are other than at the OPD but none more than 50nm from the OPD so you can use that to meet the XC requirements for Part 135 PIC if you ever go that route -- but that won't be going on an 8710-1.
Thank you, FAA, for giving us seven different types of XC time and only one box on the 8710-1 to enter it.
According to the instructions on the 8710-1 form:
III. RECORD OF PILOT TIME. The minimum pilot experience required
by the appropriate regulation must be entered. It is recommended, however, that ALL pilot time be entered.
You're stating to sound like John Madden.As R&W said...The time in flights not involving a landing more than 50nm from the original point of departure does not meet the "appropriate regulation" for PP-A, IR-A, or CP-A, so don't enter it on an 8710-1 under XC time for those certificates/ratings.
Since only one or two types (and the second for the ATP) counts for the purposes of the 8710, I'm not sure what the big deal is.Thank you, FAA, for giving us seven different types of XC time and only one box on the 8710-1 to enter it.