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Any pro pilots that still call (other than CFIs)?
 
I use fltplan, or more recently ForeFlight and their brief and file feature. I have been filing ICAO flight plans for 3-4 years. Both fltplan and ForeFlight send feedback emails on flight plan acceptance and expected routing as soon as they are available.
 
dans2992 said:
Any pro pilots that still call (other than CFIs)?
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Just for odd balls.

Example, one local airport we go to on occasion was Notamed closed for a week, we knew ankh this before the NOTAM even.

I come in duty, check the status of the local area and see low and behold the airport is no longer NOTAMed closed, even though it was sposed to be closed for a few more days, called a briefer just to double check foreflight and FltPlan.

I've been in a few spots where I had cell service but the data wasn't having it, called.
 
AuntPeggy said:
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Here is the source:

Beginning on October 1, 2015, the FAA will implement flight plan filing for civil aircraft exclusively under the format used by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). Flight plans contain specific information relating to the proposed flight of an aircraft and controllers use them to provide air traffic services. Today pilots file flight plans in the U.S. under either the domestic or ICAO format. The use of one format will simplify the process and align U.S. flight plans within ICAO standards.
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Good find, I signed up and did some customizing. This definitely cuts down on the number of places I need to look
 
I really have wanted to use that website... really did. I've tried it a number of times in the past, but to me, it is just very clunky and not very user friendly. I am a ForeFlight guy and pull most of my information from there. I use a little ADDS for some additional info.

My same sentiment goes to calling briefers. Any time I've tried calling them I have to sit and listen to a complete story of everything I already found.. and then when I've asked them specific questions they have attorney-generated CYA answers that tell me absolutely nothing. I get the CYA aspect of calling, but otherwise I get no additional value from it. With so many people who love this service, I'm sure it is something that I am doing wrong. Would anyone have a link to a YouTube recording of a successful weather briefing call?
 
ahkahn said:
I really have wanted to use that website... really did. I've tried it a number of times in the past, but to me, it is just very clunky and not very user friendly. I am a ForeFlight guy and pull most of my information from there. I use a little ADDS for some additional info.

My same sentiment goes to calling briefers. Any time I've tried calling them I have to sit and listen to a complete story of everything I already found.. and then when I've asked them specific questions they have attorney-generated CYA answers that tell me absolutely nothing. I get the CYA aspect of calling, but otherwise I get no additional value from it. With so many people who love this service, I'm sure it is something that I am doing wrong. Would anyone have a link to a YouTube recording of a successful weather briefing call?
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I think you are right that with modern online tools and resources available at our fingertips, the extra benefit of voice advice from an anonymous (and likely non-pilot) "specialist" is somewhere between minimal to none.
This assumes you know how to use, read and interpret said resources, can reliably predict your expected flight conditions and, given your equipment, ability and experience level, weigh the alternatives (no-go being among them).
I would include in those resources the latest Skew-T graphs for your route and time window, which can give you an excellent idea of what to expect along your flight path if used properly.
 
ahkahn said:
My same sentiment goes to calling briefers. Any time I've tried calling them I have to sit and listen to a complete story of everything I already found.. and then when I've asked them specific questions they have attorney-generated CYA answers that tell me absolutely nothing. I get the CYA aspect of calling, but otherwise I get no additional value from it. With so many people who love this service, I'm sure it is something that I am doing wrong. Would anyone have a link to a YouTube recording of a successful weather briefing call?
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Nope, you are doing it right. First, get all pertinent data for your flight on whatever tool you want. Then call LM, give a tail number and get it over with as soon as possible so your A is covered.
 
docmirror said:
Nope, you are doing it right. First, get all pertinent data for your flight on whatever tool you want. Then call LM, give a tail number and get it over with as soon as possible so your A is covered.
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If you've obtained the necessary information from _somewhere_ I don't think that is necessary to "get your A covered". If you get useful service out of them, call. If not, don't.
 
dans2992 said:
If you've obtained the necessary information from _somewhere_ I don't think that is necessary to "get your A covered". If you get useful service out of them, call. If not, don't.
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Fine with me.

My two - er, involvements with the FAA, the first question I got was 'how much fuel did you have'? The second question was 'did you obtain a briefing from flight service'? Don't get one, doesn't bother me a bit.
 
docmirror said:
Fine with me.



My two - er, involvements with the FAA, the first question I got was 'how much fuel did you have'? The second question was 'did you obtain a briefing from flight service'? Don't get one, doesn't bother me a bit.
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What were these "involvements"? Just trying to understand the context of their inquiries.

I mean, did you land on a NOTAMed closed runway or something? :)

Seems like most of the 135/91k pilots responding use fltplan.com or something so just curious on the benefit.
 
docmirror said:
Fine with me.

My two - er, involvements with the FAA, the first question I got was 'how much fuel did you have'? The second question was 'did you obtain a briefing from flight service'? Don't get one, doesn't bother me a bit.
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Answer to that question would be FltPlan.com per our OpSpec.

There is a paper trail for online briefings you know
 
James331 said:
Answer to that question would be FltPlan.com per our OpSpec.

There is a paper trail for online briefings you know
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Works for you. I already covered that.

Register? Already said I'll opt out thank you very much. ahkhan wanted to know if his call was necessary. It isn't. You can register, get your self in the system, and it's all good. Or, you can get your flight info anywhere you want and then call for your box checking, and no registration.

Oh, and this is my last time explaining. Take your shots, free for all, be as obtuse as you'all want. :yes:
 
Sensitive subject for you?

You're already in the system


You call a briefer and give them your tailnumber, the call is logged, you might have well registered online as far as your information is concerned.

If it's your plane, under your name, to get all your info (if anyone wanted it) it'll take about 2 minutes to run the tail, another 3 to run you in the airmans database.

Now I have your plane, SN etc, I have your name (if it's registered under your name), probably your address, your licenses etc.

If it's a fed or LMT running it, betcha they can get a lot more info, a lot faster.

If it's not your plane, a few phone calls, threats and maybe some paperwork, they'll find out who was flying that plane at that time, and have all your info.


So unless you are giving bogus tail numbers for your briefings, you in many ways already "registered" ...or might as well have.
 
RotorDude said:
I think you are right that with modern online tools and resources available at our fingertips, the extra benefit of voice advice from an anonymous (and likely non-pilot) "specialist" is somewhere between minimal to none.
This assumes you know how to use, read and interpret said resources, can reliably predict your expected flight conditions and, given your equipment, ability and experience level, weigh the alternatives (no-go being among them).
I would include in those resources the latest Skew-T graphs for your route and time window, which can give you an excellent idea of what to expect along your flight path if used properly.
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Yep, I use Skew-T's also. I believe that I read that ForeFlight's briefing is a legally documented one as well.

Lol at the "specialist" comment... that's been my experience almost every time.
 
I can get a weather briefing and file by phone while Im driving to the airport.
 
RyanShort1 said:
I call somewhat frequently. And I'm a very satisfied Skyvector user. I hope that doesn't go away at all. It's invaluable for flight planning the kind of stuff I do in the Dallas area.
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What does SkyVector buy you that any decent app like Foreflight doesn't?
 
jesse said:
What does SkyVector buy you that any decent app like Foreflight doesn't?
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Let me be Mr. State the Obvious, it's free!!

It also works on any platform, and I can just leave it up on a desktop screen.

Even with foreflight pro and fltplan, I still use skyvector for a quick and constant overview of the areas weather.
 
jesse said:
What does SkyVector buy you that any decent app like Foreflight doesn't?
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It just works better for flight planning a photo mission on a pc or laptop.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I547 using Tapatalk
 
jesse said:
What does SkyVector buy you that any decent app like Foreflight doesn't?
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I'll answer this one... and I'm a ForeFlight guy through and through.

Answer: Ability to use it on a computer!
 
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