10 Things OTHER Pilots Do Wrong...

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TangoWhiskey

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I love the title of AOPA's new ASF seminar. The postcard for the event says:

Join us for a lively discussion of the top 10 pilot pet peeves... about other pilots. Ever felt like some pilots got out of flight school just a bit too early?

Remember the motor-mouth who used the CTAF like his private phone line? Or that guy whose sudden prop blast filled your hangar with a delightful breeze every time he taxied? Well, now is your chance to vent your frustrations. For our latest seminar, we'll gather to discuss the 10 things other pilots do that drive us nuts. We'll discuss grievances submitted by pilots, learn how they relate to safety--and vow never to do what those other pilots did.

Part group therapy, part safety workshop, here are just a few of the topics we'll tackle:

  • Traffic pattern conflicts
  • Ridiculous radio communications
  • Problems in two-pilot cockpits
  • Bad etiquette at the airport
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It's next Monday for me, in Fort Worth... will provide a PIREP after attending.
 
Part group therapy, part safety workshop, here are just a few of the topics we'll tackle:

  • Traffic pattern conflicts
  • Ridiculous radio communications
  • Problems in two-pilot cockpits
  • Bad etiquette at the airport
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Oh that sounds like fun. :rolleyes: :eek: :mad2:
 
Such a short list. I would think the list of what OTHER pilots do wrong would be MUCH longer. <g>.

Best,

Dave
 
or "Fly an airplane with the tailwheel on the wrong end." All else pales...
 
I find myself in the midst of one of those "seminars" every time I go to the airport. :D
 
I'm amazed at the taxi speed Cirrus and Bo drivers consider necessary.
 
wabower said:
I'm amazed at the taxi speed Cirrus and Bo drivers consider necessary.
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Am I too fast or too slow? I like to mosey along at a decent clip, idea being to be close-ish to operating temp by the time I get to the runway. YMMV.

sba55 said:
I'm equally amazed at the time people waste doing "runups".
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If I can, I perform a mag and prop check while I taxi to the runway.
 
wabower said:
I'm amazed at the taxi speed Cirrus and Bo drivers consider necessary.
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Geesh Wayne, you'll have to ride in the 58P with me sometime, at idle, I'm eatin up tail draggers and most singles. Have to ride the brakes to stay behind them. Got behind an RV one day when there was a strong crosswind. By the time he reached the other end of the field (7,200 feet), I could have finished my ATP oral <g> and thought I'd need new brakes!

Best,

Dave
 
SCCutler said:
If I can, I perform a mag and prop check while I taxi to the runway.
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Fair enough, at least you don't waste time or damage your prop that way.

I don't do either because a ROP low power mag check won't tell me anything that my engine monitor doesn't already indicate, and it's certainly rather obvious if the prop/governor isn't working properly when you try to take off :P
 
I never before associated the phrase ASF Seminar with the word fun. I also try very hard not to tell other pilots how to fly their own aircraft, though I do get a tad bossy if someone other than me is flying mine.
 
steingar said:
I never before associated the phrase ASF Seminar with the word fun. I also try very hard not to tell other pilots how to fly their own aircraft, though I do get a tad bossy if someone other than me is flying mine.
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It is fun. I love hearing all the 'there but for the grace of god pilots' snickering at the dead dumb bastards when the show is over.
 
Dave Siciliano said:
Geesh Wayne, you'll have to ride in the 58P with me sometime, at idle, I'm eatin up tail draggers and most singles. Have to ride the brakes to stay behind them. Got behind an RV one day when there was a strong crosswind. By the time he reached the other end of the field (7,200 feet), I could have finished my ATP oral <g> and thought I'd need new brakes!

Best,

Dave
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I have a similar issue in the Aztec. Even at 500-600 RPM idle, there's enough thrust that I generally have to ride the brakes somewhat.

As to what other pilots do that annoy me, there are lots of things. But I'm sure I do things that annoy them, too, so I leave it be.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
As to what other pilots do that annoy me, there are lots of things. But I'm sure I do things that annoy them, too, so I leave it be.
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Yeah, something about "glass houses" or "throwing the first stone." I have way too many faults myself! :blush:
 
The traffic on Txy Uniform generally moves faster than I'd like to see, with all the driveways and ramp cuts.
SCCutler said:
Am I too fast or too slow? I like to mosey along at a decent clip, idea being to be close-ish to operating temp by the time I get to the runway. YMMV.



If I can, I perform a mag and prop check while I taxi to the runway.
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Why oh why always the 'high wing' and wheels on the wrong end of the plane put downs, huh? I love seeing the terra firma drifting along underneath me at 80kts.
 
I just use beta or pop a reverser on one side. That's what we do in real multi's.:P

Dave Siciliano said:
Geesh Wayne, you'll have to ride in the 58P with me sometime, at idle, I'm eatin up tail draggers and most singles. Have to ride the brakes to stay behind them. Got behind an RV one day when there was a strong crosswind. By the time he reached the other end of the field (7,200 feet), I could have finished my ATP oral <g> and thought I'd need new brakes!

Best,

Dave
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Disregard comments from the peanut gallery. Typically by those who have all the answers but don't understand many of the questions.:D
DutchessFlier said:
Why oh why always the 'high wing' and wheels on the wrong end of the plane put downs, huh? I love seeing the terra firma drifting along underneath me at 80kts.
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Some engine/prop combinations will surge at the first application of power (even if done smoothly and slowly) unless the dome oil is cycled prior to applying takeoff power. It can be disconcerting, distracting or uncomfortable, depending on circumstances. Train like you fly, fly like you train. I like to see pilots whose normal habits are the same as ttheir check ride habits. If they're not, I wonder why.
sba55 said:
Fair enough, at least you don't waste time or damage your prop that way.

I don't do either because a ROP low power mag check won't tell me anything that my engine monitor doesn't already indicate, and it's certainly rather obvious if the prop/governor isn't working properly when you try to take off :P
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I have a feeling that, despite the title, the seminar is intended to cause introspective reflection on one's own behavior. We'll see...
 
Then why bother? Going to those things is like taking a golf lesson. While the pro is standing there you make the changes he suggested, but as soon as he leaves you change back to your old way because you like it better. You probably still can't play worth a ****, but you've got your reasons for doing it your way.:rofl:

TangoWhiskey said:
I have a feeling that, despite the title, the seminar is intended to cause introspective reflection on one's own behavior. We'll see...
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TangoWhiskey said:
I have a feeling that, despite the title, the seminar is intended to cause introspective reflection on one's own behavior. We'll see...
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Yes, hopefully the title is just a humorous reflection on what some internet forums have become!
 
wabower said:
Some engine/prop combinations will surge at the first application of power (even if done smoothly and slowly) unless the dome oil is cycled prior to applying takeoff power. It can be disconcerting, distracting or uncomfortable, depending on circumstances. Train like you fly, fly like you train. I like to see pilots whose normal habits are the same as ttheir check ride habits. If they're not, I wonder why.
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I'll have to try cycling the prop before applying takeoff power in the Arrow the next time I fly it (don't know when that will be). It has a 3 blade prop conversion and surges every time you apply power for take off unless done gradually. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
Let'sgoflying! said:
Yes, hopefully the title is just a humorous reflection on what some internet forums have become!
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Probably a poorly presented one. I've yet to see a safety seminar that was put together in a thoughtful way with any kind of visual reinforcement, with the glaring exception of Rod Machado. Just my 0.0125 pounds, and not worth even that.
 
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