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This was my immediate thought when I looked at where the crash site was.

Well, Hitler did keep the trains running on time right? It's just a movie with a bad actor who can't keep from playing the same forever frat boy. I'm sure you can think of something you can condemn in whole right?

First movie sucked, eager to see back then and walked out WTF was that mess? So no interest in this. Too damn much revisiting the eighties anyways. Plus Crooze is part of a very evil money cult and at the top of it. I think in time he will be exposed as people like Cosby was. People think the...

You are asking the wrong question. I really hate that question. It's a terrible question. Get rid of "believe", people chose to believe all sorts of BS. I think. The answer to the questions you should be asking...... Do I think there are others, were others, will be others? Of course. We are...

Flight training will pull your mind in many directions you won't have time to obsess, and if you do, spend it learning FARS and boring stuff, studying and taking practice tests, or every little aspect of the avionics. You can use it in your favor.

He came in pretty fast and that explosion, not sure there would be enough left to determine? Never know what they can do these days though.

Stroke?

Cubic does have a drone facility very close to MYF.

Sky Limo Corp, but no more info you can usually get. Wonder what they were doing for over three hours?

Yeah weird. After they landed everything went bye bye.

Thought about that too. Maybe that pattern "reserves" the airspace. Maybe an ATC guy can chime in.

I thought maybe that too since it's so precise with all those Tron cycle turns. But all I visually see is the orbiting single engine bug smasher the last few hours. https://planefinder.net/flight/LMO225 So I don't get why it's depicted with those perfect impossible angles and not realistic turns.

Went for my walk and there is a single engine aircraft orbiting around about that altitude. Usually that would be homeland security.

Given that maybe just try to shear a wing off or both if possible. Easy to say I know.

Oh yeah, whip up a frenzy of outrage, local news is always out to appear as grand crusaders. Ignoring the weekly bloodbath on the local roads of course. Most of the time the only injuries or deaths are those in the aircraft. But they want to paint some kind of disaster in the making that a GA...

What kind of equipment is this video from? I'm curious if the pilots had a eyeball visual or this was all electronic? Anyone with expertise? The one video it looks remarkably well tracked and as it rotates so does the horizon on the video. Is it possible this was some kind of electronic illusion?

Keep the alien jokes to a minimum if possible. I have some thoughts what is going on but curious if anyone has some insights. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html?_r=0

It had the straight wing, but I couldn't tell if it had a T-tail or not. That could be then. The only straight wings I've seen are A-10s occasionally and this was definitely not that. They seemed to be a light grey color. I've seen F-5 agrressors lately too so maybe some kind of training thing...

Saw at least three jets, appeared to be L29s leaving Miramar. This is unusual to see out of Miramar outside of an airshow, is there anything similar in appearance to L29s or is there some private company that does contract work?