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You're ignoring Class 1 - the most common one.Fixed.
Here's a portion of the text from the FAA regs:
You're ignoring Class 1 - the most common one.Fixed.
Here's a portion of the text from the FAA regs:
Not ignoring it at all, any more than a comment about drones ignores toy drones.You're ignoring Class 1 - the most common one.
Anything that's not a wood/paper toy requires clearance.I believe you only have to contact the FAA to launch high powered rockets.
Incorrect. Your own link shows that. Just because you consider it a toy does not mean it’s not a rocket. Because it is.Anything that's not a wood/paper toy requires clearance.
Fixed.
Here's a portion of the text from the FAA regs:
Part 101 requires all Class 2 and 3 amateur rocket operators to notify the FAA air traffic facility nearest the place of intended operation prior to the launch. Notice of the launch must be provided to Air Traffic no less than 24 hours and no more than 3 days before the launch operation.
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A waiver/authorization is required for amateur rocket operations conducted outside the operating limitations per paragraph 31-2-2. The most common reason for requesting a waiver/authorization is to operate within controlled airspace. An applicant must submit its waiver/authorization request to the service area. If the applicant submits its request directly to AST, AST must direct the applicant to submit its request directly to the service area.
...paper airplanes....Not ignoring it at all, any more than a comment about drones ignores toy drones.
The point is that anything operating in controlled airspace is subject to FAA regs and authorization - planes, rockets, gliders, etc.
I’ve decided you’re right. All rockets need an faa clearance except the ones that don’t. LolAnything that's not a wood/paper toy requires clearance.
Any metal component immediately makes it class 2.Incorrect. Your own link shows that. Just because you consider it a toy does not mean it’s not a rocket. Because it is.
No, I do not.So you agree it's not true that every (or any) model rocket entering controlled airspace will have a clearance.
Wrong yet again.Any metal component immediately makes it class 2.
No, I do not.
If it is entering controlled airspace it needs to be authorized. Try it and find out for yourself.
But it should not be public info; I'm not happy that anyone can look up my home value and various other stuff.It's public info she has no leg to stand on IMO.
That said, with these cases popping up more and more and non-celebrities wanting privacy why does ADS-B need a unique identifier beyond an ATC assigned Squawk code? For safety/traffic awareness purposes wouldn't it be enough to only show the aircraft type?
Still no. I've launched many rockets into controlled airspace without being "authorized." I notice you're no longer claiming I need a clearance. And we still haven't addressed drones.No, I do not.
If it is entering controlled airspace it needs to be authorized. Try it and find out for yourself.
Including full sized aircraft.Still no. I've launched many rockets into controlled airspace without being "authorized." I notice you're no longer claiming I need a clearance. And we still haven't addressed drones.
The reality for most of us is that there's loads of stuff flying around in controlled airspace with no clearance.
I'd like to have it available to me while flying and afterwards. I don't want people to build a global network of ADSB receivers like they do with liveATC.What's the compelling need to have everything public knowledge?
I detect notes of @denverpilot, ca 2014, in your post.….As for ADS-B; the unique identifiers which stay with the plane never made sense to me. To me, this was just a bad design by engineers who never considered any aspect of security, and a lack of security is pervasive throughout ADS-B, let alone the broader ATC system….
I'm not happy that anyone can look up my home value and various other stuff.
Probably since the 70s or maybe 80s. Title companies found it much easier to compile all the data and keep it updated than to send someone to county records every time they needed to run a search.Yeah, I'm not thrilled about that either. When did that become a thing, that the local government has a website with all of that information? Its one thing if it is publicly available at the courthouse, another to make it easy and free to use.
I was surprised when I first moved to Iowa, that my salary as a low-level public employee is published in the local newspaper annually. Apparently its state law here. I get that it is public information, but its different when it is freely placed for any and all to see. I doubt my nosy neighbor would have made the trip to City Hall to find out, but when its in their Sunday paper they can't help but look.
I'd like to have it available to me while flying and afterwards. I don't want people to build a global network of ADSB receivers like they do with liveATC.
Next I suppose you'll be wanting to make ATC conversations private?
I detect notes of @denverpilot, ca 2014, in your post.
I'm replying to the prospect of real time tracking of every automobile, so your state doesn't appear to offer that service. I think you must agree with me that it's a regrettable policy, since you keep your identification and location private here on POA.Actually, already being done for years...private companies (Motorola and FlockSafety) do all the plate reader/plate tracking in my home state. Then they sell it to who ever wants it, including both police and/or private entities.
Also in my state, ANYONE can get plate/vehicle/owner info from the state, for $6 per plate. It's public information, you just have to know how to get it.
lol…if my id and location are private, it wasn’t intentional! I’m not interesting enough for anyone to track, car, plane or otherwise.I'm replying to the prospect of real time tracking of every automobile, so your state doesn't appear to offer that service. I think you must agree with me that it's a regrettable policy, since you keep your identification and location private here on POA.
Communications Act of 1934 gives US citizens the right to receive any transmission over the RF spectrum.Somehow, reading the US Constitution, I'm not seeing the right to know everything about anyone else...
Somehow, reading the US Constitution, I'm not seeing the right to know everything about anyone else...
4th amendment?Also not seeing the right to privacy.
So the story goes, if you believe in penumbras.4th amendment?
That protects against the government searching and seizing without probable cause. The Constitution provides no protection against a private entity.4th amendment?
Which makes Virginia’s ban on radar detectors all the more annoying.Communications Act of 1934 gives US citizens the right to receive any transmission over the RF spectrum.
It also offers no protection when you have no expectation of privacy, like when doing observable stuff in public.That protects against the government searching and seizing without probable cause. The Constitution provides no protection against a private entity.
But to what extent does "observable" cover? "So-and-so aircraft left the airfield at 8am" vs "So-and-so left this airfield at 8am and is currently 2 states away at 8K' AGL and will be arriving in ATL at Noon". What expectation of privacy can be had when you are only able to "observe" someone due to gov't mandated/provided tracking info?It also offers no protection when you have no expectation of privacy, like when doing observable stuff in public.
This is a Con Law II question.But to what extent does "observable" cover? "So-and-so aircraft left the airfield at 8am" vs "So-and-so left this airfield at 8am and is currently 2 states away at 8K' AGL and will be arriving in ATL at Noon". What expectation of privacy can be had when you are only able to "observe" someone due to gov't mandated/provided tracking info?
“Arriving in ATL at Noon” isn’t part of the ADSB transmission, FYI.But to what extent does "observable" cover? "So-and-so aircraft left the airfield at 8am" vs "So-and-so left this airfield at 8am and is currently 2 states away at 8K' AGL and will be arriving in ATL at Noon". What expectation of privacy can be had when you are only able to "observe" someone due to gov't mandated/provided tracking info?
I'm aware. I'm just illustrating that someone can track you in-transit rather than just at departure.“Arriving in ATL at Noon” isn’t part of the ADSB transmission, FYI.
It is on flightaware though. Assuming you file IFR.I'm aware. I'm just illustrating that someone can track you in-transit rather than just at departure.