flyingcheesehead
Touchdown! Greaser!
There are large expanses over northern PA, NY, WV, and NC where I've tried Flight Watch many times with no results.
... 'cuz the Chief can't climb to 5,000 AGL.
There are large expanses over northern PA, NY, WV, and NC where I've tried Flight Watch many times with no results.
Why is CD being brought up, he was obviously VFR....Um...yeah, he was visual....yeah, I'm sure of it.
... 'cuz the Chief can't climb to 5,000 AGL.
Look I'd punch Ed in the face and bust his nose for other reasons but not over this thread. Ed did fine in my book. I'd do what he did myself.
Were it just me I would probably do what Ed did. The biggest problem is if you can't see the airport you might not know it until the impact. A mistaken altimeter setting could make that a reality quite quickly.
Were I a CFI with a student, I would want the student to think through all the possibilities of a good resolution that didn't involve danger from an altimeter setting. Sorry, I have no doubts that lots of NTSB reports conclude with darkness was a contributing factor... There were several things to try before giving up and doing the balls out approach. I'd rather my students thought things through before doing the gonzo. That is, if I had any. Sorry, my largest concern in teaching is to get my students to think things through.
Landing at night at Gaston's, moon or no, sounds like utter and near suicidal idiocy.
It depends on the definition of night. I was there when you landed. It was dark but it wasn't PITCH DARK. With an overcast, it gets so damn dark that you can't see a single thing looking down that runway.Maybe for a an inferior Buckeye. I would do a Gaston's night landing again, and again, and again. You can make out the ridges against the sky, you've got all the cabins lit up almost exactly parallel to the runway, and can use them basically as runway lights. You offset yourself from them about 150' -200' or so, and you are pretty much centered on the runway. You've got the "goalposts" to really line you up with the runway, and before you are below the treetops you can already make out the runway edge markers. I don't think I even bothered using the altimeter because there are so many altitude cues that can be used otherwise. In some ways it's easier than trying to find a grass strip in Kansas.
However, I had taken off and landed there probably 20 times prior to doing that.
Comes dangerously close to making me like ol' Ed.
Look I'd punch Ed in the face and bust his nose for other reasons but not over this thread. Ed did fine in my book. I'd do what he did myself.
There isn't enough to go around (sorry, take a number).
Hmmm.. Looks like the numbers are up to '2' now.
Please go back and look at my post. I said "dangerously close." If I had actually run into everything I've come dangerously close to I wouldn't have lasted nearly long enough to have all this gray hair.
So the number's still at 1. The loneliest number.
Good. For a minute there I thought you were competition.
You just saved yourself a punch in the throat.
Thank goodness.
Since you seem to be averse to Ed having other people (even other guys) think he's okay . . . I'm gonna encourage him to check the stove for the rabbit boiling in the pot after you see him.
You take me way too seriously.
Since you seem to be averse to Ed having other people (even other guys) think he's okay . . . I'm gonna encourage him to check the stove for the rabbit boiling in the pot after you see him.
Nope...... 90% of the time you can reach someone. Don't do them a disservice of just saying they don't respond. I honestly cannot think of a single time where I haven't been able to reach Flight Service throughout the country.
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You must be very lucky, or have some great RF amplifier on board. I can think of several times in the past couple years when no one answered from Flight Service. Terrain. signal propagation, antenna connections. etc etc make radio calls less than perfect. It is not a disservice to FS to say they can't hear you ,or that you don't hear their response. Just another fact of life. Learn to deal with it.
There is a *BIG* difference between trying flight service and not getting through and explaining to the student that it can happen versus not calling flight service at all because they never answer.You must be very lucky, or have some great RF amplifier on board. I can think of several times in the past couple years when no one answered from Flight Service. Terrain. signal propagation, antenna connections. etc etc make radio calls less than perfect. It is not a disservice to FS to say they can't hear you ,or that you don't hear their response. Just another fact of life. Learn to deal with it.
What he said.denverpilot said:Jesse doesn't need to "deal with" anything. He said the system works well for him. You're funny.