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didnt see it posted yet
Not bad for a design that first flew in 1952
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/b52-strat/b52_50th/ff.htm
Not bad for a design that first flew in 1952
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/b52-strat/b52_50th/ff.htm
Ah memories!! Those H model guys had it lucky. The RVR didn't hardly drop at all like it did with the water burning G model!! Great vid!
I'm older! It first flew 9 days after I was born.
I remember those "G" model water injected 12 second MITO departures.
I was number 9 one day.. just follow the black smoke in front of you.
This looks more like 30 second ORI Departure, complete with the run from the alert shack and cart starts.
You really had to have the ears perked up listening for the "aborting airspeed" call cause you sure weren't going to see it till you ran into the dragchute of the guy ahead!!
I timed it and it did average about 30 seconds. Definitely an ORI, no external ordinance.
I flew the G and H models at KBAD. Where did you fly the G?
When I was stationed at Griffiss this many airplanes spooling up and fast-taxiing to the runway meant the balloon went up and we had about 8 minutes.
Thankfully, every time they did they pulled power 1/3rd down the runway -- meaning it was only an exercise.
I was at KBAD, 596BMS, from Feb '85 to Aug '87.
Then I moved to the Bone at El Forko Grande (KRDR, Grand Forks ND).
Coming up on 70 seconds NOW,... Committed..
Coming up on Water Runout NOW.. GET THAT NOSE DOWN !!
No kidding! I was in the 596/96 from Apr '88 to Jan '96. Then went to the T-34 at KNPA. Still hear the "Doom" callsign from FW center every once in a while. BTW, my first "Hooter" was the last "Mover" we did at KBAD. I've even got a "SlipStick" in my bag somewhere.
"One and Four above the green band, Center and Aft contain more than 2000 lbs each.... One, Two, Three, and Four ON, 13 and 16 OPEN, 26 and 28 to Engine Feed." Still
Clarify for those of us who weren't there..
This slang for... "oh crap we are at war... no, wait.. its a drill?"
Yes.
If the "balloon went up," the Russians were pouring through the Fulda Gap in Southern Germany, the Subs were launching ICBMs, and those of us that knew it were deciding whether to stay on base or rush home for a last few moments with sweethearts.
I'm glad it never went up.
And those of us turning oil and water into black smoke trying to get airborne in time... we knew we had work to do.. there would be nothing to come home to.
(On Alert, 100% engines running.. ready to taxi when the US went into Lybia)
Oh, heck -- we used to launch 47 in a row at Upper Heyford. Maybe an F-111 isn't as big as a Buff, but 47 aircraft, one after another, with 15-second intervals on opposite sides of the runway even on peacetime ORI's? Sure got the attention of the sheep in the field off the end of the runway.
Ho, ho, ho. No, not at all. Typically we only saw one or two abort on peacetime exercises. The F-111 fleet was pretty healthy by the time I got into the 'vark in 1980.Given they were F-111s, you had -- what, 30 of the 47 immediately return for repairs?
Ho, ho, ho. No, not at all. Typically we only saw one or two abort on peacetime exercises. The F-111 fleet was pretty healthy by the time I got into the 'vark in 1980.
Can't speak to the FB-111's -- they had different engines, bigger wheels and brakes, higher takeoff/landing weights, longer wings, and different avionics. They were also not flown nearly as much, and that's never good for a jet. And more than that, they were SAC, not TAC.Hmmm... I guess they sent the duds to Plattsburgh, then. I was at Griffiss in 1980 -83 and had friends at PAFB. They were always complaining about the number of problems.
Can't speak to the FB-111's -- they had different engines, bigger wheels and brakes, higher takeoff/landing weights, longer wings, and different avionics. They were also not flown nearly as much, and that's never good for a jet. And more than that, they were SAC, not TAC.
No argument. That means generating 47 'varks is about 50% more work than generating 47 Buffs. And we'd've been over our targets about nine hours before them (albeit with smaller weapons, but when you're talking nukes, what's a megaton or two here or there?).Ron, 47 aircraft is impressive, but in my experience, fighters take roughly 1/2 the time and manpower to generate compared to heavies.
That happened after I retired, so I can't speak to whether the Buff types were un-SAC-umcised as a result of the merger. However, I doubt many F-111 types went willingly to B-52's when the 'vark was retired. OTOH, SAC exchange guys rarely wanted to go back.That might have been different back in your day, though. And these BUFFs are ACC, which is a derivative of TAC, so carefull, you might be criyicizing your own kind!
The who? Is that like "son of SAC" or something? Who's in it -- just missiles and B-planes? Just like the Air Force to come up with a sexy new name for the same old thing. Do the tankers remain in AMC (nee MAC) or join their old buddies in the GSC?With the missteps of the Nuke progrom over the last few years, the USAF has established Global Strike Command.
Without throwing stones, I think all parties can agree that there is no doubt the two mentalities are quite different.Hopefully the bomber force get back to their roots, which is not in line with the fighter mentality.
It looked like the wing tip support gear retracted forward after take-off but kind of hard to tell for sure. Is that what happens on B-52s?
Rick
Oh, heck -- we used to launch 47 in a row at Upper Heyford. Maybe an F-111 isn't as big as a Buff, but 47 aircraft, one after another, with 15-second intervals on opposite sides of the runway even on peacetime ORI's? Sure got the attention of the sheep in the field off the end of the runway.