paflyer
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But eating eggs will give you a heart attack, right?
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I am also in favor of riding snowmobiles and ATVs while intoxicated. And headaches.
paflyer
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You'll probably be too old to fly by then.
But eating eggs will give you a heat attack, right?
Your dad having a heart attack gives you a heart attack.
And diabetes.
Smoking too.
And inflamed plaques inside of your coronary arteries give you heart attacks. Sometimes they even contain cholesterol, just like eggs.
DavidWhite
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Doubtful.
paflyer
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But but but, the FDA! and the AMA? And the "AdCouncil"? And Big Pharma?
James_Dean
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I was really trying to say that there are cheaper ways to get protein other than steak. Please don't take that as a condemnation of beef in any way. In fact, I'll introduce you to Hank and Ginger. They're registered black angus and will be quite delicious. We're going to do a few Wagyu feeders in the spring that will be ready for the dinner table in late 2020.
P.s. they're steers, but the kids got to do the naming. I was angling for calling them Tomahawk and Ribeye but lost the battle.
paflyer
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Hopefully you're in a career rocketship.
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But having a plane can be part of one's lifestyle just like having a big house, boat, motorcycle, frequent dining out, foreign travel, etc. Any of those lifestyle choices might mean sacrificing others. Just depends on which choice is more important to you.
mkosmo
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It's not about cost, it's about my pleasure
But now my mouth is watering for a Tomahawk... thanks. At least it's lunchtime, but a burger will have to suffice.
James_Dean
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But eating eggs will give you a heart attack, right?
/Eggman admits his bias/
In my opinion Ancel Keyes did more harm to the American diet and heart health than anything else in history and in time will be a textbook case of 'science' getting it very wrong.
paflyer
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But... consensus !
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And we've turned this into a discussion about how bad eggs are for us? Oh boy!
I want to hear more about this envy of bigger faster airplanes!
Don't forget that we all make life choices (or mistakes). If we didn't have such a nice house, we could have a faster airplane. If I hadn't pi**ed away $6,000 on a fancy nice car this spring, I could have equipped with ADS-B. If we hadn't blown $40 on dinner last night, I could have bought enough AvGas to fly 3 more rescue pups tonight.
Again, we all make choices. *shrug*
I want to hear more about this envy of bigger faster airplanes!
Don't forget that we all make life choices (or mistakes). If we didn't have such a nice house, we could have a faster airplane. If I hadn't pi**ed away $6,000 on a fancy nice car this spring, I could have equipped with ADS-B. If we hadn't blown $40 on dinner last night, I could have bought enough AvGas to fly 3 more rescue pups tonight.
Again, we all make choices. *shrug*
DavidWhite
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Currently I have little debt, make fairly decent (not great) money for a 22 year old, and no kids/wife.
House comes first, and then airplane.
DavidWhite
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Frequent dining out is my sin, and I really like to go on vacation. I've flown 800 hours in the last year, so sacrificing the things I really enjoy( traveling, jug, eating out consistently etc) to do something I already get to do is hard to justify.
Clip4
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I will bet raising 5 kids will cost more than a Colu
5 children @ $230,000 each to raise and the lost income of a stay at home wife. The Columbia and Mercedes is looking cheap.
Timbeck2
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Jug? As in moonshine or playing in a band?
paflyer
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Sounds like the 800 hours drives the other activities.
DavidWhite
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Jug is anything with alcohol in it. I forget that I'm not talking to my stupid friends who use the word "jug"
When one gets too drunk, that is called getting turbo-jugged.
paflyer
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Who comes up with these ridiculous numbers?
Timbeck2
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Got it. I was picturing you playin' with some bluegrass band.
steingar
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If you think all vegetarians eat is vegetables you may consider yourself an idiot.
Timbeck2
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Parents and it depends on "how" they raise them. My kids are a hell of a lot more expensive to raise my wife's way vs my way. Like the common phrase in this thread, raising kids too, is also "relative" - no pun intended.
Unless you qualify for some form of public assistance, that number sounds about right. Between the needs for a bigger house, having to pay family health insurance, transportation and edumnication, that's what you end up spending. If you make little enough that your kids are on SCHP and they can get pell grants, you are probably going to spend less.
DavidWhite
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It most certainly does. I'm still not entirely sure what you're getting at. I'd like to get an airplane I could work, but then work would follow me home and I kinda like leaving all of my cares at the hangar with regards to airplanes.
DavidWhite
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Got it. I was picturing you playin' with some bluegrass band.
I would love to play the jug in a bluegrass band. That is my true calling.
James_Dean
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paflyer
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You're a pro pilot so you travel and eat out a lot. And you're a 22 pro pilot so you have no discretionary income. Missing anything?
paflyer
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Mark Twain's "Third Level of lies. "Designed to promote the reduction of family size. I'll leave "why" as an exercise to the reader, to avoid the Hammer of Ban.
paflyer
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When I was a kid, in the 60's/early 70's, three of us kids were in one bedroom (prob 12x12), we walked to school (1/2 mile in the suburbs), and education was covered by real estate taxes. Mom stayed home until we were in our teens, and then she worked part time to give her something to do.
Health insurance costs beyond one child (a "family") are marginal.
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Same result at two fancier type FBO's (Carlsbad the interior and Austin Exec).
I land in the Tiger, and an owner getting ready to jump in his jet walks over after I shutdown and starts shooting the breeze. Asks lots of questions, and wants a ride in my plane. I laughed both times. The most recent was Austin Exec on Father's day. He grumbles at the end of the conversation that he works hard to maintain "the toys" and has to take this f***ing trip because the mentally challenged guys on the other end of his business can't figure things out via GoToMeeting.com
Carlsbad (Chandler) spent about an hour with me and showed me his "taxidermy" area upstairs (ask for a tour if you're ever there). He must have at least a million in taxidermy fees. He's a billionaire from the oil fields, and bored ... his wife races cars. They have 6 or 7 aircraft and own the FBO.
I land in the Tiger, and an owner getting ready to jump in his jet walks over after I shutdown and starts shooting the breeze. Asks lots of questions, and wants a ride in my plane. I laughed both times. The most recent was Austin Exec on Father's day. He grumbles at the end of the conversation that he works hard to maintain "the toys" and has to take this f***ing trip because the mentally challenged guys on the other end of his business can't figure things out via GoToMeeting.com
Carlsbad (Chandler) spent about an hour with me and showed me his "taxidermy" area upstairs (ask for a tour if you're ever there). He must have at least a million in taxidermy fees. He's a billionaire from the oil fields, and bored ... his wife races cars. They have 6 or 7 aircraft and own the FBO.
denverpilot
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Kill the debt with a vengeance. I mean seriously get ****ed off at it. Enough to make a "lifestyle change".
And keep in mind two things on the house:
- You're in a career that will likely mean you move more often than average.
- Even the average homeowner sells a house every seven years.
That last one means that to ever truly get ahead of the mortgage it must be a 15 year term.
A thirty year mortgage at 4%, if you started payments on it 8/1/2017, you'd pay more in interest than principal until 3/1/2030 (with no money down). The people selling you the mortgage know the seven year average when they sell you this.
People just do not get that this is designed to keep them in debt forever.
I'm hearing stories of 50 year term mortgages now in California?! Insanity.
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That does make sense. Carry on.
James,
I have never beaten an egg. Whisked them, scrambled them, poached them, and forced them into home made bread. Other than the aforesaid transgressions I do like eggs.
@paflyer,
Designed to promote the reduction of family size. I'll leave "why" as an exercise to the reader, to avoid the Hammer of Ban.
Being a child who came of age in the things have changed.the early fifties I can not disagree with you more. Values were different back then and population growth was expected. Things have changed.
paflyer
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Post War, more nascent Capitalists absolutely encouraged = Baby Boom
Mid-sixties is when things changed. "Ecology movement", "sexual revolution", "women's lib", "'Great Society."
More children in the middle class especially discouraged.
You make the mistake of generalizing from the incomlete data available to you about your own upbringing to the nation as a whole.
Where specifically do you disagree with the methods of the USDA study cited above ? ('its from the government and therefore a lie' doesn't count as an answer).
Without kids I would live in my 800/month condo and own one car.
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DavidWhite
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Well, you don't know what I do, how much money I make, or who I fly for so you're assuming an awful lot.
DavidWhite
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When I said I have little debt, I mean very little. Under $5,000 - all on my motorcycle that I got with the sole purpose of building credit. (And that motorcycles are awesome)
Clip4
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$233,000 / 18 years is $1,083 a month. Did you ever itemize every dollar you spent that you wouldn't if you did not have children? Is that number out of line with child support numbers you have heard people paying?