You take out a UAV with your own UAV.

John Baker

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OK, this is a completely hypothetical, yet could turn out to be a lot of fun.

So your sitting in your house and you see a small helicopter type unmanned aerial vehicle hovering above your property, say around 25-50 ft AGL. You also notice it's camera lens is aimed at your home.

So, you decide that this thing is intruding on your privacy. You go out to your garage and get your own UAV and launch it at the intruder. You take out the intruder with a direct head on collision. Both craft crash into your back yard.

You go over to the wrecks and see that the intruder belongs to your local police. You know you have not broken any laws, so there was no need for a UAV to be spying on you.

You decide that it is now a finders keepers situation, and take both aircradft into your garage. You have now scored on some realy good motors and cameras.

You go back into the house and hear a tapping on your front door. You answer it, and it is your local police. They want their UAV back.

Your still a little cranky about being spyed on, so you tell them that they can bid for it on e-bay. You refuse to come outside to discuss it, and close your door in their face.

So, what's going to happen now?

-John
 
John Baker said:
You go out to your garage and get your own UAV and launch it at the intruder. You take out the intruder with a direct head on collision. Both craft crash into your back yard.
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Is "your own UAV" a small "craft" made out of lead and propelled through a metal tube with gunpowder? :D
 
Sam D said:
Is "your own UAV" a small "craft" made out of lead and propelled through a metal tube with gunpowder? :D
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I never thought of that, but no. It is an electric powered model airplane.

With the UAV that you suggested, it would have been a non issue between you and the cops, they win from the get go.

-John
 
No reason to RAM it . . . take your airplane up behind it - then fly it alongside and tip the wing - you know - the ol' PIT maneuver! Its too low to recover, then crashes in your back yard.

You have a $25,000 fee for the collection, supervision, storage and security of UAV's that crash on your property. You are not keeping it. You are merely watching over it until the rightful owner can claim it. Hoe do you know its police property? Just because they say so? Why, anyone can paint "LocalPD - Protect and Spy" on the side of a UAV.

They can pay your fee and have it back once they prove ownership. They can arrest you but they would not have much success with a prosecution - they can arrest anyone for pretty much any thing.

The downside to this entire fantasy is that they would not be spending much time idling over your property unless they have a reasonable suspicion crime is afoot or your attractive wife or teen daughter is sunbathing nude . . .
 
comanchepilot said:
The downside to this entire fantasy is that they would not be spending much time idling over your property unless they have a reasonable suspicion crime is afoot or your attractive wife or teen daughter is sunbathing nude . . .
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this.
 
comanchepilot said:
You have a $25,000 fee for the collection, supervision, storage and security of UAV's that crash on your property. You are not keeping it. You are merely watching over it until the rightful owner can claim it. Hoe do you know its police property? Just because they say so? Why, anyone can paint "LocalPD - Protect and Spy" on the side of a UAV.

They can pay your fee and have it back once they prove ownership.
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Can i really charge them a fee for keeping their shot down UAV?

comanchepilot said:
The downside to this entire fantasy is that they would not be spending much time idling over your property unless they have a reasonable suspicion crime is afoot or your attractive wife or teen daughter is sunbathing nude . . .
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I have a very buxom roommate. I smell a money making opportunity. I think I deserve at least an 80% cut for coming up with the idea and piloting the UAV that shoots down the police UAV. That's sounds like a reasonable fee, right?
 
You shine a green laser into the camera blinding the UAV operator miles away. That way you didn't destroy any of your own resources and proving destruction of govt property will be much harder to prove.:wink2:
 
After the tap on the door, there would probably be a lot of clubbing while yelling the phrase "STOP RESISTING!"
 
John Baker said:
You decide that it is now a finders keepers situation
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There is no such legal doctrine.

I can see charges of
  • Malicious destruction of property over $250
  • interfering with an investigation
  • larceny over $250


And I'm sure they can dig something up for intentionally crashing you 'weapon'.
 
I was defending my home from an intruder, assumed it to be a thief or other ne'er-do-well, caing my home for a burglary.

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Edit: I can't help but have the urge to say: if I observed one of these over my home, I'd holler, "PULL!" and shoot it down... :D
 
Well, apparently the FBI wants their toys back when they are discovered.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/10/fbi-tracking-device/2/
A California student got a visit from the FBI this week after he found a secret GPS tracking device on his car, and a friend posted photos of it online. ...

Afifi got into his car and headed for the parking lot exit when two SUVs pulled up with flashing lights carrying four police officers in bullet-proof vests.

The agent who initially spoke with Afifi identified himself then as Vincent and told Afifi, “We’re here to recover the device you found on your vehicle. It’s federal property. It’s an expensive piece, and we need it right now.”

Afifi asked, “Are you the guys that put it there?” and the agent replied, “Yeah, I put it there.” He told Afifi, “We’re going to make this much more difficult for you if you don’t cooperate.”
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http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Jose-Arab-American-sues-FBI-over-GPS-2528276.php
 
I have a very buxom roommate. I smell a money making opportunity. I think I deserve at least an 80% cut for coming up with the idea and piloting the UAV that shoots down the police UAV. That's sounds like a reasonable fee, right?
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My standard fee is 1/3 - but you can't do criminal on contingency - so the standard retainer is $10k . . . .

And el Paso pilot . . . how does he know its theirs? I ask them to clear my path unless they are detaining me and to please state the reason for the detention.

I would ask them to a) show me the warrant identifying my vehicle for the GPS surveill and THEN you can have it back, b) show me the paperwork identifying the serial # you intend to use to carry out the warrant and c) show the serial number on the unit.

The FIRST place every LEO goes is to threaten you - when you call them on the bluff you then find out very quickly if they are bluffing . . . and can adapt your response accordingly . . .
 
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