Williams AZ - 3 fatalities- PA-28

This might explain a lot right here.
"Witnesses said that the airplane had fueled up at H. A. Clark Memorial and took off, several moments later, they heard the plane operating at what they described as low or no power, turned to a northerly direction back towards the airport where the plane came down in a field nearby," Lt. Romero said.
 
They talk about that in the tv news report as well. An impossible turn scenario is really sad in this instance because it looks like a desert landing would’ve been completely doable.
 
Cherokee Cruisers with 150 hp are great two person planes at sea level. Three at gross at DA of 9K would barely climb, even if the engine was working well. Wonder if they had issues with leaning the engine at that DA.
 
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/3-people-killed-in-single-engine-plane-crash-in-williams

This forum has 4 different posts about PA-28 crashes going. What’s that about.
One possibility: First, the sheer number of PA-28s. Second, being that they’re widely used for training, and are a common first airplane, they’re often flown by low-time pilots. Several of the recent PA-28 crashes were overloaded for the conditions, flown by pilots who were out of their element.
 
Like fuel exhaustion, I don't understand overloading. It is not hard to figure out.

Years ago a multi thousand hour CFI, who I knew, took off in a Cherokee 140 with 4 adults and luggage. WTF?!

Did not make it to the end of the runway before stall/spin.
 
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