What will you tell the census taker?

My mom raised me to be smart enough to know that when she said to school and home, that I knew it meant directly to school and directly home, unless a deviation was approved from her. If you deviate while on an IFR flight plan, you may get a call from the FAA. If you deviate while on a mom let you borrow the car plan, my mom would yell enough to tear down the building.

We call this "parenting". ;)

Proof you're a good boy, not a drug-running Midwest terrorist.
 
If there was no mention of a census in the constitution at all, would it be unconstitutional for Congress to institute a mandatory questionnaire?
-harry
 
If an architect builds a building without an engineer, the building will fall down.

If an engineer builds a building without an architect, the neighbors will want to tear it down.
Where I went to college the department of Architecture was housed in the ugliest building on campus.

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Where I went to college the department of Architecture was housed in the ugliest building on campus.

That looks pretty similar to the Department of Architecture building at Princeton. Very ugly building.

Then again, I think New Jersey has a law prohibiting attractive structures. :)
 
Yeah, but it was originally built in France. :)

I was about to point that out. As we know, the French should be prohibited from making anything with moving parts (i.e. Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Airbus). :D

Princeton also has some very nice buildings on campus... that are several hundred years old. The requirement for ugly structures must be more recent than that.
 
I was about to point that out. As we know, the French should be prohibited from making anything with moving parts (i.e. Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Airbus). :D

Princeton also has some very nice buildings on campus... that are several hundred years old. The requirement for ugly structures must be more recent than that.


These are French:

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Falcons...Mirage fighters, along with the other Dassault line...Aerospatiale helicopters...the French have turned out a bunch of nice planes over the years.


Trapper John
 
Falcons...Mirage fighters, along with the other Dassault line...Aerospatiale helicopters...the French have turned out a bunch of nice planes over the years.

And since Peugeot figured out corrosion protection in the 80s, they have been building excellent cars.
 
Falcons...Mirage fighters, along with the other Dassault line...Aerospatiale helicopters...the French have turned out a bunch of nice planes over the years.


Trapper John

The French just do things differently. A friend flew the SST and talked about how challenging the training program was because of that.
As a former Army aviator, I always smiled when I noticed the rotor went opposite direction on the Aerospatiale helos as compared to ours (Huey, Cobra and OH-6 and 58).

Best,

Dave
 
I've been in design, construction, property management throughout my career and have come to realize that:

Architect = Generalist

Engineer = Specialist

An architect comes out of school knowing a little bit about everything and during his career he learns less and less about more and more until, finally, he knows nothing about everything.

An engineer comes out of school knowing quite a bit about very little and during his career he learns more and more about less and less until, finally, he knows everything about nothing.
 
I've been in design, construction, property management throughout my career and have come to realize that:

Architect = Generalist

Engineer = Specialist

An architect comes out of school knowing a little bit about everything and during his career he learns less and less about more and more until, finally, he knows nothing about everything.

An engineer comes out of school knowing quite a bit about very little and during his career he learns more and more about less and less until, finally, he knows everything about nothing.
I majored in Landscape Architecture in college and was subjected to a lot of design classes. I seem to remember that designers were very much in love with what their project looked like and the statement it was making. Of course the project also needed to function properly but that was not the emphasis. It seemed like people were graded not so much on the individual contents of the project as much as the package, and a prime factor was if you could BS your way through defending your project to its critics at the final presentation.

I can't imagine engineers being concerned with the theme or statement of their projects...

And needless to say I didn't go into Landscape Architecture. :dunno:
 
I can't imagine engineers being concerned with the theme or statement of their projects...

I think it's very important for engineers to have ownership of some part of whatever project. They get very frustrated when they don't.

How do you tell an extroverted engineer from an introvert?

When speaking to you, the extroverted engineer looks at the tops of your shoes.
 
Did anybody else here get randomly selected for a follow-up telephone survey? I received a voice mail while I was in India, with a US Census Bureau toll-free number and a "case number". I called upon my return to the States, and what an aggravating ten minute waste of time that was, both for me and the "cheerful" operator on the other side of the line.

Essentially, they are spot-checking some surveys to ensure that the form was filled out correctly and that they don't double-count some folks. So, after about 40 questions (all answered "no") like "did anyone in your household reside in a [repeat question one time each for hospital, prison, college, boarding house, travel for work, etc.] in March or April 2010", they then repeated the same set of questions for each INDIVIDUAL on the form (and I had seven, my family of five plus my two sisters-in-law that live with us).

"Did Teresa..." x 40
"Did Troy..." x 40
"Did Lindsay..." x 40
etc.

MADDENING. Sheesh. THIS is government waste.

I told the survey taker, once she started asking the same set of questions for each individual, "did you not just ask if ANYONE in my household lived in those places"? Of course, she said she's mandated by law to then ask the same set of questions for each INDIVIDUAL, too. Lord almighty, save us all!
 
We never received anything Census.

:skeptical:

Mine as follows:

1) Letter "You will be receiving your Census materials in a few weeks."
2) Census form
3) Letter "You should have received your Census materials"

Yep, you must not count. ;)
 
I gots paperwork out the wazoo....
make sure you clean off the paperwork after it comes out of your wazoo. You don't want to get arrested like this guy

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Man-Smeared-Poop-on-Parking-Ticket-91792724.html

As a sign of protest, Alexander J. Bailey, 22, allegedly smeared poop on a parking ticket and mailed it back to the village of Bartlett, reports Chicago Breaking News......




Bailey was arrested last week on charges of disorderly conduct. He posted $500 bail and is due back in court in June, reports Chicago Breaking News.

 
Mine as follows:

1) Letter "You will be receiving your Census materials in a few weeks."
2) Census form
3) Letter "You should have received your Census materials"

Yep, you must not count. ;)

Mine:

1) Circa 2009ish: Next year is the census.
2) Letter: You will be receiving your census in a few weeks
3) Census form
4) Letter: You should have received your census
5) Letter: We can't move forward until you send it back

Of course, I filled out the census the day I got it, and mailed it back a few days later. Not a waste of funds at all.

Oh - plus, the numerous radio commercials with Indians singing songs to me about the census and the television commercials and the newspaper ads and the Bus Ads, etc, etc. were all a nice touch and an excellent use of tax dollars :rolleyes:
 
I answered how many people currently live at my address, and how many would be living there as of April whatever. The answer being 1 for both questions of course. I then drew a line through all the other questions and note saying none of that information is necessary.
 
Received the pre-census info to keep the USPS operational but no census form. They'll have better luck roping the wind than finding me at the house to ask questions.
 
Seriously - did everyone else in the country get the irritating Indian Census Commercials, or were they reserved for the lucky few of us that live near reservations? I wanted to find a recording of it, but I can't seem to find them.

Imagine a screeching group of females singing off key with a droning drum beat behind it.

"10 easy questions.....2010 census."
 
There you go.... denying your community from getting every penny of money that they are entitled to.... (paraphrasing the Census ads).


Well, I would have gladly complied with the Constitutional mandate, but in certain parts of Pennsylvania they have lots of "extra" people to count -- usually in November.

:rolleyes:
 
If I am called or visited for the ACS, I think I will politely tell the Census employee that I need to check with Starfleet Command before providing any information.

-Rich
 
If I am called or visited for the ACS, I think I will politely tell the Census employee that I need to check with Starfleet Command before providing any information.

-Rich
Starfleet will have you give the information as they are colonial tool of the Federation!!! Tell the census person that Xenu forbade you from disclosing the location of his minions. :D
 
Starfleet will have you give the information as they are colonial tool of the Federation!!! Tell the census person that Xenu forbade you from disclosing the location of his minions. :D

Ah, okay. That should get the "NUT" box checked for sure! :wink2:

-Rich
 
Mine turned out to be pretty simple. I filled it out and sent it back with race as other.
Didn't get any follow up, but did get all the waste of money letters before the form came and saw several useless commercials. Folks came to the neighborhood putting out homes in the GPS.

Got a call from someone in one of my subdivisions wanting me to explain where all the future houses would be; they had a plat which shows all future lots. They wanted me to explain it all to them and asked if I has something better for them to look at. I referred them to city hall as that is all public information. They wanted me to drive out and explain it all to them at which time the phone connection seemed to get real bad before they were somehow disconnected. Strange, I usually have pretty good ground line connections; problem must have been on their side <g>.

Best,

Dave
 
It is killing my sense of practicality to listen to the millions of $ of ads on the radio etc they are putting out to get us to comply.
Agggg.
 
I got the "we're gonna send you a census form" letter; then I got the census form, which I completed in accordance with my reasonable interpretation of the scope and depth of information to which they are entitled, mailed it back, then got another complete census package, thrown away.

"Oh golly, how will they ever know how many buses to buy????"

Maybe, like, ask the bus drivers, "Dude, your buses filling up?"
 
It is killing my sense of practicality to listen to the millions of $ of ads on the radio etc they are putting out to get us to comply.
Agggg.
The 2000 census cost $6.5 Billion the 2010 census ad buy is around $135 million and for each percentage point that the response rate goes up it saves about $85 million is not have to follow up with people. So the better and more accurate people fill out the form the better for everyone.

http://advertising.suite101.com/article.cfm/americas_2010_census_advertising_campaign
 
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