What the top of the marine layer looks like & a Sequester Delay

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Today was interesting because of the sequester delay.

I departed POC for CMA and met up with Ventucky Red for lunch. If you ever have the chance to get to the Waypoint Cafe at CMA they do a killer tri-tip on Wednesdays - even if it was a little salty.

I sat on the ground at POC for 15 min waiting for release - the tower told me is was due to have fewer controllers at SoCal - I dunno how they can reduce volume at SoCal but thats what they said. It is rather annoying to be sitting there burning $6 a gallon fuel -

If you are SoCal based - now that staffing is 'challenged' they want everyone to PREFILE IFR flight plans - until this gets resolved you need to pre-file to get a clearance faster. Was thanked by ground for doing so and instructed to pass the word along. Just file a TEC - I was ONTN15 when filed and DUATS was fine with it.

The photos below are what the top of a thick marine layer looked like. Many VFR only pilots have never seen it - it looks just like cotton batting in a pillow.

I flew the GPS RNAV 26(Y) into CMA and broke out at 800. Mins are 620. First approach in a while to within 200' of mins - one guy in front of me asked for the VOR approach - which has 1100' mins - and was told they were reporting 800bkn with lower ceilings to the east - he went missed. Thankfully I have an approach certified 530.

I was vectored all over God and creation on the way out - and hit the IAF with about a 60 degree intercept - thankfully the GPSS steer took it around the corner gracefully as a fly by waypoint. Winds aloft were screaming though - had about 20 degree correction left on the way down that adjusted to about a 10 degree at landing. Winds have been funky here in SoCal lately.

I am finally getting comfortable using a iPad mini for situational awareness on an actual IFR flight - << cough cough. >> I do have the paper plate open and ready to go - plus the display on the 530.

On the way back I was only about 700 above the clouds so the whole flight can be logged - even if it was pretty ez. The insurance company and the FAA might care but I don't. Vectors to the VOR/GPS-A at POC - pretty standard - but again I needed a 30 degree angle to maintain the track inbound - its funny how that wind went away as I got under the cloud deck to right down the runway at 10 knots.

and the controller told me that I was cleared to the active three times before clearing me for the approach. I heard the Sup in the background the third time telling her to clear me for the approach - I was just about to ask if I was cleared for the approach when she caught up - and the Sup was talking her through it -

anyway - enjoy - it's always a good day to get 2 approaches close to mins and do it within the PTS.
 

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If you are SoCal based - now that staffing is 'challenged' they want everyone to PREFILE IFR flight plans - until this gets resolved you need to pre-file to get a clearance faster.
Those Bastards!

Being able to call up ground and get a TEC or air file was one of most beautiful things about flying in SoCal!
 
You lucky dog. ;)

I've tried three times this winter to take advantage of a non-icing IFR day. Every time it's been too convective. We just don't often get that kind of weather here. Today would have been a great opportunity -- 900 foot ceilings all day long. But the freezing level is at about 1500 and there is (or was) lots of liquid precip in the air.

Maybe in a couple of weeks...
 
It went ALL the way to the mountains in the East - right up against the mountains to the north - I'm surprised there was no widespread drizzle - with a 4200' tops on the layer.
 
Those Bastards!

Being able to call up ground and get a TEC or air file was one of most beautiful things about flying in SoCal!
We always prefile here, there are no guarantees if you don't. One time I called up ground at KPTK for my clearance and was told they didn't have a flight plan on file. They were able to put me in the system on the fly, but (according to them) ONLY because it was a short hop -- as in 15 nm.

DTW Approach even discourages picking up clearances in the air. Departing home base (untowered, no CLNC freq), that means shutting down and calling on the phone for a void time clearance. I won't say I always do that. In fact, I don't normally do it unless departing VFR is a bad idea. But it's what they would prefer.
 
Nice to meet you yesterday and glad to see you made it back alright... It cleared up a little more here yesterday afternoon. Wish I could have gone up, but my rental is getting a Garmin 650 installed.

Next time we'll scoop ya up and head over to Olas Mexi.... great burritos and tacos..

Take care
 
We always prefile here, there are no guarantees if you don't. One time I called up ground at KPTK for my clearance and was told they didn't have a flight plan on file. They were able to put me in the system on the fly, but (according to them) ONLY because it was a short hop -- as in 15 nm.

DTW Approach even discourages picking up clearances in the air. Departing home base (untowered, no CLNC freq), that means shutting down and calling on the phone for a void time clearance. I won't say I always do that. In fact, I don't normally do it unless departing VFR is a bad idea. But it's what they would prefer.
Exactly why flying IFR in SoCal was so nice. You could literally go to any airport, call up ground and ask for a TEC clearnance and get it instantly, then depart without having to call Flight Service or get on Duats.

Just as easy in the air too. If you were coming back to the coast VFR and the marine layer set it, you could simply call up SoCal and ask for an IFR clearance to your destination and they would give it to you no problem.

I haven't seen ATC that supportive anywhere else in the country. Sad to see they are reducing/eliminating that convenience.
 
Exactly why flying IFR in SoCal was so nice. You could literally go to any airport, call up ground and ask for a TEC clearnance and get it instantly, then depart without having to call Flight Service or get on Duats.

Just as easy in the air too. If you were coming back to the coast VFR and the marine layer set it, you could simply call up SoCal and ask for an IFR clearance to your destination and they would give it to you no problem.

I haven't seen ATC that supportive anywhere else in the country. Sad to see they are reducing/eliminating that convenience.

Yes this has been a convenience that I have grown very use to having around. Can't even begin to tell you how many times I got pop-up clearance into LGB in the late afternoon early summer evening's

I don't believe getting a TEC while doing a run-up or a pop up clearance in the air is going to go away, but we can do our part in reducing the workload in the system so we don't have to hear the dreaded "Cessna Bla Bla Bla are you ready to copy a hold, or clearance in process stand by.

As a side note in all my IFR flying in SocCal.. I have only had a hold once.. :yes:

Case and point.. while sitting there with Comanche it took him all but a about two minutes to get a IFR flight plan using a TEC route logged into DUATS and he was good to go.. He probably could have done that with Foreflight while we were munching on our tri-tip sandwiches. With all the new fangled technology getting in the system now is even easier. Why not use it!!!!

Besides isn't easier to copy a clearance when you hear "cleared as filed" and it is already programed in your GPS/Foreflight/etc....??????
 
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The one thing we need to know is what the proper spelling of the TEC is - I spelled it wrong on my iPhone and DUATS kicked it out - they gave me the route but not the name for it to file - that was weird.

You always get some kind of DP from the airport and until you fly in there you don't know what it is - for example Camarillo has a DP in the book which is CMA265 then something then route. Yet, in reality the same routing is Fly Heading 275, radar vectors Van Nuys. Whereas at Brackett you need to fly the DP, which is the VOR approach in reverse - at least its in the book!
 
We always prefile here also. The controllers here are busy enough with foreign students, I truly want to make their lives easier.

IFR? What's that... haven't seen much more than stratus at 25,000 since I got my ticket!
 
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