What do you own?

[rbridges]

I like the resemblance. The Cirrus is the hot, new SEL piston aircraft. The RV10 is the kit builder's interpretation of same.

The major difference is construction technique. What's the same is basic configuration. Both perform similarly. One is half the cost plus lots of sweat equity.

I've never flown a Cirrus but I hear a fair amount of carping about it's handling characteristics - probably overblown by haters. No one carps about the handling of the '10 because it's just so sweet.

I like the pic for another reason as well; I took my first C150 lessons in the hangar to the right way back in 1970. Taking the bus to this airport for lessons is what motivated me to get my drivers license.

In the 30s and 40s, my Grandfather used to take my Mother to watch the airplanes along the fence to the left. She took me there to do the same in the 50s and 60s. She took her first flight in Tigressa the day this picture was taken. I'm glad she's still able to fly in it with me today. The O2 tank I recently installed comes in handy for that.

Who can identify the airport?

I have to agree. The RV-10 is a sweet plane. If I sell the mooney and go experimental, the 10 is definitely on my short list.

 

[Bill Watson]

I'll bite just for fun: Lunken?

No, a bit further east

 

[CTLSi]

I like the resemblance. The Cirrus is the hot, new SEL piston aircraft. The RV10 is the kit builder's interpretation of same.

The major difference is construction technique. What's the same is basic configuration. Both perform similarly. One is half the cost plus lots of sweat equity.

I've never flown a Cirrus but I hear a fair amount of carping about it's handling characteristics - probably overblown by haters. No one carps about the handling of the '10 because it's just so sweet.

I like the pic for another reason as well; I took my first C150 lessons in the hangar to the right way back in 1970. Taking the bus to this airport for lessons is what motivated me to get my drivers license.

In the 30s and 40s, my Grandfather used to take my Mother to watch the airplanes along the fence to the left. She took me there to do the same in the 50s and 60s. She took her first flight in Tigressa the day this picture was taken. I'm glad she's still able to fly in it with me today. The O2 tank I recently installed comes in handy for that.

Who can identify the airport?

Correct if wrong. The Cirrus is a $400k all carbon fiber high performance aircraft. The RV is metal, rivets more in the vain of a Zodiak.

 

[Alexb2000]

all mine are small ( thumbnail) pics too.......

Ben-

You're living in christmas card land. I never get tired of looking at those pictures. Awesome place.

 

[GCA319]

Renting was financially ruinous if I wanted to maintain a reasonable currency, so I decided to buy. I bought Carlson because it was cheap, while resembling an airplane.

If I manage to put just 50 hours a year on Carlson, then the flight hour cost is about $35, including parking rental, insurance, MX, and fuel. I'm going to amortize the purchase price fully in less than 3 years of flying it.

My dream plane is FD CTLS. Unfortunately it costs anywhere between 7 and 10 times more than Carlson.

Do you base it at AEG?

 

[N801BH]

Ben-

You're living in christmas card land. I never get tired of looking at those pictures. Awesome place.

Agreed.....I am one lucky SOB.....

 

[dans2992]

Comanche 260B

 

[Silvaire]

I own the one with the clean tailwheel

 

[flyingron]

Navion.

 

[Bill Watson]

Correct if wrong. The Cirrus is a $400k all carbon fiber high performance aircraft. The RV is metal, rivets more in the vain of a Zodiak.

In terms of materials, generally correct.

Zodiaks are fine aircraft but vanity is not a characteristic I would associate with them. They are kind of utilitarian looking, ugly to some eyes. Limited fairing of components and in particular, the riveting is mostly pull riveting or aircraft grade pop rivets.

The RV10 is flush riveted; no bumps, no holes. While it is an aluminum aircraft with thousands of rivets just ask a builder what the most challenging parts are and they will tell you it's the composites. The optimal way to get the smooth lines of the composite Cirrus is to use composites. The cabin top, cowling, pants, tips, and tail fairings are composites. The mix of materials and construction techniques are optimized for the kit builder and cross country performance.

BTW, the airport is Pittsburgh's Allegheny County, KAGC.

 

[zaitcev]

Do you base it at AEG?

No, Double Eagle is too expensive. I'm at Mid-Valley, where they have $50 parking.

 

[GCA319]

No, Double Eagle is too expensive. I'm at Mid-Valley, where they have $50 parking.

$50/month?

 

[JBrown243]

Comanche 260B

I love your panel! I really want to upgrade mine to a standard layout.

 

[dans2992]

It was done in early 2000s by the previous owner, but yes, I do like it better than the "shotgun" panel in another Comanche I used to fly.

Some of the electronics are showing their age (ie the 480) but I like the 480 better than the 430.

I think the light colored background does a lot aesthetically as well.

 

[atmcpm]

Columbia 300. Man I love that plane.

 

[rbridges]

It was done in early 2000s by the previous owner, but yes, I do like it better than the "shotgun" panel in another Comanche I used to fly.

Some of the electronics are showing their age (ie the 480) but I like the 480 better than the 430.

I think the light colored background does a lot aesthetically as well.

IMO just getting an aluminum panel and a more standard layout modernizes the look of a panel quite a bit.

 

[evapilotaz]

Sorry for the lame question but what is a shotgun panel layout?

 

[dans2992]

"Random" placement of instruments "ie like they came out of a shotgun". Typical of earlier Comanches (and other planes before the "standard six pack" became the standard arrangement.)

 

[evapilotaz]

Thanks DAN. Now I know

 

[dans2992]

I heard it from someone else. Not sure if it's "standard" terminology.

 

[zaitcev]

$50/month?

$50/month, of course. If they charged $50/night, I'd be looking at a powered parachute.

 

[Jay Honeck]

I heard it from someone else. Not sure if it's "standard" terminology.

We call it a "drunk monkey" panel.

Our RV had one when we bought it.

 

[rbridges]

We call it a "drunk monkey" panel.

Our RV had one when we bought it.

the older mooneys had/have it, too. gauges all over the place.

 

[marcoseddi]

I got my ppl three years ago. I first bought a 150 sold it six months later after flying it 100hrs.
I bought a c177b for an economical plane.
Then I wanted my high performance complex so I purchased a North American snj5.

Now I want my multi so I purchased a Douglas C-53 (DC3). It's a nice plane. I can take 19 of my friends to go for that $1000 hamburger

My next plane is a difficult choice. Part of me wants a new faster plane so I'm looking at a Cessna 400.
Although the fun side of me wants to get a BAC Strikemaster or a L39. Too many planes too many choices.

But at the moment three planes are enough. With what I paid just for the insurance on the dc3 this year I could have bought another c150.

Planes are fun. Buy what you can afford to fly, and fly it!

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Wow is this real?? You got a dc-3 for multi that's cool


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[hindsight2020]

how much is the going rate [w/ labor] these days to re-arrange a certified can into standard six pack layout? Is there any significant additional cost to re-arranging the throttle cables to the standard T->P->M arrangement?

 

[Henning]

how much is the going rate [w/ labor] these days to re-arrange a certified can into standard six pack layout? Is there any significant additional cost to re-arranging the throttle cables to the standard T->P->M arrangement?

It depends on the panel, some are quick and easy, some are quite involved. I'd say between $400 and $2000 for the panel. The quadrant can be more difficult, but I can't think of a reason to do it, it's no big deal, I've flown both never been an issue, different heights, different textures.

 

[Jay Honeck]

how much is the going rate [w/ labor] these days to re-arrange a certified can into standard six pack layout? Is there any significant additional cost to re-arranging the throttle cables to the standard T->P->M arrangement?

With everything going glass, it's hard to imagine a worse investment than spending AMUs to rearrange steam gauges.

 

[airheadpenguin]

Comanche 250, speed, load carrying for a family of 4 and fuel burn

 

[rbridges]

With everything going glass, it's hard to imagine a worse investment than spending AMUs to rearrange steam gauges.

Personally, I wouldn't pay to redo the panel unless I was already upgrading the avionics.