weekend flight with a mayday

dell30rb

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Had a great trip this weekend, flew myself up to Asheville, NC saturday to stay with some friends and back home sunday.

On my way up I was cruising at 6,500 enjoying a tailwind and a vector -free clearance through class B airspace. I heard the magic words "mayday mayday mayday cessna xxx has lost engine power and is descending through 7,000" and you could definitely hear the stress in the pilots voice.

Not a good place to be but the weather is CAVU and 7000 is quite a bit of altitude. The controller responds with "CessnaXXX your descent is approved, maintain vfr at all times" (really?) then continues to vector other traffic. About 30 seconds later the pilot of the aircraft keys the mike "mayday, mayday, mayday ... I have an airport in sight... need some help here"

Controller asks him to standby and replies "that's concord at your 12 oclock, 10 miles" and "how many souls on board and how much fuel"

Anyway they handed him off to concord tower who did a nice job of calming the pilot " you're cleared to land either runway, wind is xxx, don't worry we got everything cleared out for you" He made it in safely.

Coming home - I launched into a 2500ft overcast from asheville. There is a mountain right in my path from AVL to the home base, so I told asheville ground that I wanted to fly from asheville to 0A7 and then direct to my home airport, a route that would keep me from overflying any terrain higher than the field at asheville. Of course when I took off, I was immediately vectored straight for the mountain. There looked to be at least 1000 feet of clearance between a lesser peak on the right and the cloud deck so I asked for a heading 10 degrees right of what I was assigned and got it. I have little time in the mountains and generally stay far above them (east coast luxury i guess) but it was AM with calm winds and I knew I was home free after crossing the ridge. Crossed over and had a good flight home.
 
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Interestingly, I'm doing some IR study and that airport is used in the example.
 
"Your descent is approved" with an engine failure. Really?

Guess who's coming down into your lower traffic whether you approve it or not...

Wow. Funny stuff.

I would have loved to hear that the pilot was so calm and cool that they said, "Doesn't really matter if you approve of it or not, it's happening either way."
 
"Your descent is approved" with an engine failure. Really?

Guess who's coming down into your lower traffic whether you approve it or not...

Wow. Funny stuff.

I would have loved to hear that the pilot was so calm and cool that they said, "Doesn't really matter if you approve of it or not, it's happening either way."
Reminds me a bit of what the crew of Southern 242 told the controller when they lost both engines on their DC-9 after flying it into a Level 6 thunderstorm:

All right, listen, we've lost both engines, and, uh, I can't, uh, tell you the implications of this uh, we uh, only got two engines and how far is Dobbins now?​

http://www.airdisaster.com/reports/ntsb/AAR78-03.pdf
 
Well, we departed Knoxville one fine IMC day (pre-moving map GPS days - it was a different world then) whereupon departure sent us off on a 140 heading, climb and maintain 5000 contact, etc. and promptly forgot about us due to the gaggle of airliners in the flight levels ALL demanding another altitude where it was "smoother"... The controller kept reminding them the jet stream had a kink in its back that morning there was no "smoother" to be had, but every minute another airline pilot entered the area of strong CAT and immediately started whining...

Anyway, trusting explicitly in my fellow man, controller that is, I was closely watching the clock add each minute in my progress towards some granite that was reputed to hang around in that area of the country... My finger hovering over the yellow-brown wrinkles the chart insisted were ahead of us at 7000, I was trying to contact the enroute sector controller as instructed by departure, but in the rapid fire of whiny airline pilots he was ignoring me... Finally making an executive decision I began a standard rate 180 turn to the left and punched the button on the transponder to highlight my squawk...
I don't know whether it was the turn or the blinking cursor on his screen, but I was soon rewarded with his rapid fire, 'everyone on my frequency stand by, 9 romeo romeo turn left immediately to heading 270 and expedite climb to 10 one zero thousand' I could hear an alarm blatting in the back ground over his voice...

Shortly after that we got it all sorted out and back on course to Florida comfortably above the 'cumulus granitus'... I commented to my passengers that I will probably get a "call the tower on landing"... But I got nothing but silence on that topic as we were handed from one sector to another all the way to Tampa... Must have been they were sufficiently embarrassed not to want to discuss it...

denny-o
 
Asheville was my home drome for awhile. One time coming back from the East I was fairly close in when the controller commanded "Turn Right Heading XX". I turmed - and saw that the specified heading was straight toward higher terrain. So I didn't quite complete the turn. Soon the controller repeated the directions. It was then (and the only time) that I used the magic word "Unable!" - and went on to explain that I would fly into a mountain on the specified heading. The controller was apologetic - and quickly amended the directions. Nothing more was said about it, and I landed uneventfully. This was in good VFR weather, by the way.

If you think the mountains are too close for comfort in Asheville, try Transylvania County airport (22W) sometime. It'll make you squirm. Kinda short runway, too. My mechanic is there, so I get to experience it now and then.

Dave

Dave
 
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