We are closer than ever, please contact your representative

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  1. jimson

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    The real reason is this: If you once had a cardiac stent put in but now are on meds, don't smoke, eat right and exercise everyday you might just not be able to get a medical while the guy who doesn't know it but is more likely to have a heart attack then you are, might pass.

    If you are taking meds for mild depression, you might be denied your medical but someone with undiagnosed crazy might pass his exam.

    If you have controlled diabetes you might fail your medical but someone who is about to have an aneurism might pass.

    It's a farce and sport pilot proves it.

    I certainly don't think it's more dangerous to fly a 172 than a 162.

    It's good for aviation because many highly experienced pilots who are a hell of a lot safer than those who passed their medical and have lots to offer the community have been unnecessarily forced out and that's wrong.

    What truly sucks is that I would like more options but even though I know I am healthy enough to fly, I will never risk the exam and possibly lose even my chance to fly sport.
     
  2. exncsurfer

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    Nice post!
     
  3. jimson

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    I did actually.


    Thank you for contacting me regarding your support for H.R. 1062, the Pilot's Bill of Rights 2. As an aviator and a cosponsor of this bill, I appreciate your thoughts on this important issue.

    As you may know, H.R. 1062 was introduced by Rep. Sam Graves (MO-6) on February 25, 2015. This bill seeks to allow pilots to fly recreationally without having to obtain a 3rd class medical certificate. H.R. 1062 has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee, and the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. Rest assured that as a cosponsor of this bill, I will continue to advocate for this important piece of legislation as it makes its way through the legislative process.

    As the 114th Congress addresses the many challenges facing our nation, I hope you will continue to share your thoughts and concerns. To keep up with my work in Congress, you can follow me on Twitter and Facebook, or visit my website at mcsally.house.gov where you can sign up to receive my e-newsletter. Again, thank you for sharing your concerns. Please continue contacting my office regarding issues that you feel are important to you and Southern Arizona.

    In Service,

    MARTHA McSALLY
    Member of Congress
     
  4. tmyers

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    I did as well. One was very supportive while the others offered form letters.

    Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk
     
  5. Rigged4Flight

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    Where is "here"?

    Ditto.
     
  6. beestforwardspeed

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    Great minds must think alike because I said the exact thing in this thread, although I'm going to give them a chance until the end of 2016:

    http://forums.aopa.org/showthread.php?t=94506
     
  7. Henning

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    The whole thing is kind of a farce, because all you need to fly without a medical is money. As long as you can afford a plane and to self insure, you don't need a medical or a license.
     
  8. timwinters

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    Well, you don't have to wait until your renewal is imminent.

    And I took my own advice just now and sent them an email telling them if no reform, then no renewal when I'm due. The dinosaur needs to either move or be killed off.

    Apparently!
     
  9. denverpilot

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    Closer than ever. LOL
     
  10. RotorDude

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    And as long as you can pay off the FAA inspector ramp-checking you, I suppose.
     
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    When have you seen one (in nearly 30 years of flying, I haven't seen one yet), and exactly what do you think they can do about it if they catch you? They basically tell you, "You can't do that." They really don't have the resources to do much more. There is a reasonably large population of pilots in the U.S. with no medical or certificate, that work on their own planes that have never seen an annual under that owner.
     
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    Well, a couple of years ago, not long after I got my previous medical, as I was taxiing in after a flight, I noticed some commotion near my parking spot (at our medium sized airport). When I got out I discovered there were two FAA men with clipboards, walking around inspecting things. One of them came up to me and very politely asked to see my pilot certificate, registration and medical. After carefully inspecting his badge I complied and gave him what he needed. He explained that they are not doing full-fledged ramp checks, "just some paperwork". He was done in a couple of minutes and they walked off to process the next victim. All in all it was fairly benign and painless, but had I not had my medical or registration, I can imagine more than just a slap on the wrist would have ensued.
     
  13. pmanton

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    Just start looking up your pilot buddies on the FAA Airman web page. You'll be surprised how many are already flying without a medical.

    Paul
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  14. azure

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    I've never personally been ramped, but not too long ago there was a post about FAA guys ramping people at 3W2 on (I think) a holiday weekend. I'd say anyone's chances of getting ramped are just large enough to deter most people from going rogue who might otherwise do it.
     
  15. beestforwardspeed

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    Like i've stated before, if the AOPA does not have the lobbying horsepower to get this bill even attached to the FAA funding bill coming up in September, let alone as a stand alone bill, they do not DESERVE to have me as a member.

    That being said, I am still giving them more than 18 months to get this passed and signed into law.

    Do it any fu#@%ing way you can. Do the necessary dirty work (that we all loathe and complain about) to get this bill attached to something else that has almost no chance of not passing (like protecting the kids, or saving the animals)

    Do whatever!!!
     
  16. Jay Honeck

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    I've been ramp checked once, many years ago. A dude in a flannel shirt ambled up to us as we unloaded the kids and said "Nice plane! I'm from the FAA..."

    I had everything in order, and it was a non-event. The owner of a Grumman Tiger, however, was scrambling to rent a car and drive home, as they had grounded his plane for some missing piece of paper.

    All these years later I wonder: What stopped the Grumman guy from saying "Eff you!" and flying home?
     
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    Absolutely nothing. The government only has the power we allow them. The FAA can come to your house and take your certificate, but that's about it. There isn't the resource or desire to do more to a non commercial operation. If you are selling rides, they will come after you hard. If you are flying off your farm, there's nothing they can do about, nor try.
     
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    :rofl:

    ^^^this^^^

    I know gobs of them.
     
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    Just start looking up your pilot buddies on the FAA Airman web page. You'll be surprised how many are already flying without a medical.





    If I didn't have a family and airplane partners to protect post-mortem....
     
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    But, you don't know how many would join them if they weren't afraid of getting caught during a ramp check.
     
  21. timwinters

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    True dat! But it didn't slow down the gobs who have done so.
     
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    FAA guys working on a weekend? That would be a first I'll bet. (Unless it's an airshow or something.).
     
  23. Bonchie

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    My question is, assuming Congress passes this (and I think it's actually possible given the current makeup), would Obama sign it?

    I'm not sure he would given the uninformed gnashing of teeth that would happen in the media over losing the medical.
     
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    Sure he would, it's meaningless.
     
  25. Bonchie

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    It's all about perception with politicians. You know that.
     
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    Hmm...
     
  27. Henning

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    Right, and this appears benevolent, which is why he'll sign it on his way out for his 'legacy'.
     
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    Now, now. You know I didn't mean ATC. I'm talking about the suits and bureaucrats.

    Hell, how would I make it to my $100 breakfast place without you guys!? :)
     
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    Insurance keeps many people in line. If you fly without an annual, a certificate, or a medical, you're not insured even if you have paid in for ten years. If you you don't give a damn about insurance and have nothing to lose, then yeah, not much to stop you from flying anyhow.
     
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    Got another email from AOPA today.

    WE ARE CLOSER THAN EVER!!! GIVE US MORE MONEY!!"

    I would, but I have my medical coming up in a week. Money goes to pay the AME. Sorry.
     
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    Same here, I am getting real tired of this. I am a regular watcher of their weekly program and since they have not said anything about the issue for a couple of weeks I thought it was dead.

    Now I get another e-mail asking for money.

    Is this thing still alive? If so do you guys think it has any chance at all of passing?

    I am starting to think the answer is NO and they are just using the issue to try and get money.

    Flav
     
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    That's exactly what I'm assuming.

    By now, someone at AOPA knows what the outcome will be.
     
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    Chatted with Bruce about it the other day, hot air blowing out of mouths, nothing else. I wouldn't look for anything until just before the election, it then,mdepends on how it polls out in the constituency; which won't likely be positive for removal.
     
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    Aopa wants the medical to go away like the NRA wants gun control to go away. There is no business without an enemy to growl at(from a safe distance)
     
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    Funny. AOPA emailed me tonight asking for a donation to "GET THIS DONE NOW!!"...

    Nope - not sending in a dime...
     
  36. beestforwardspeed

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    Don't forget that in September, they have a PERFECT opportunity to attach this as a ride-along to the FAA general funding bill.
     
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    Yeah, true, but do they want to? If they actually want it done, then Sept would be good because the GA fearing constituency will forget about it by then. We'll see...
     
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    Everyone is asking why it's not done yet. Congress just doesn't work that way (because they are mostly inept, but I digress). If it's going to get done or not, it'll be in the fall session.

    When the FAA bill comes up in the fall...that's when to bombard them with phone calls to get this done as part of it. Screw the emails. I've got friends that work on the hill as staffers. It's the phone calls that drive them insane.
     
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    We'll be lucky if they fund the faa, let alone add this to the bill.
     
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    It'd be so much simpler if AOPA would just tell us who they're planning on bribing so we could just send the money direct and cut out the middle man. :)