Jeanie
Pattern Altitude
No need for nav. Capability. Just need it for ground to air comm.
Either PM me or email is jean@bigbend.net
Either PM me or email is jean@bigbend.net
Might chat with Tony regarding licensing. I know a bejillion folks don't license but technically the handheld on the ground needs a station license.
So I guess my wife needs a license when she is on the ground with a radio and I am flying aerobatics? What kinda crap is that? I know lots of people that are iac national judges with radio's on the ground. None of them have licenses. I think this comment was kinda not called for.
I agree that lots of people break this law, but it is still the law. Wonder what the rule is for using FRS / GMRS at at low altitudes... might work for you, and be cheaper!So I guess my wife needs a license when she is on the ground with a radio and I am flying aerobatics? What kinda crap is that? I know lots of people that are iac national judges with radio's on the ground. None of them have licenses. I think this comment was kinda not called for.
I agree that lots of people break this law, but it is still the law. Wonder what the rule is for using FRS / GMRS at at low altitudes... might work for you, and be cheaper!
Yes yes. I'm wondering if you can use that band from an aircraft at low altitude. I could look it up, but this is more "fun"...GMRS need a license also.
FRS does not.
I agree that lots of people break this law, but it is still the law. Wonder what the rule is for using FRS / GMRS at at low altitudes... might work for you, and be cheaper!
Exactly what I would expect. Ashamed I didn't just know that.FMS and GMRS are not authorized for aeronautical use.
If the FCC can prove that I wasn't sitting in the Cub talking to my student... Seriously, they are right about the "ground station" licensing, but in an emergency (ie. student pilot on solo having issues) I believe that there is a higher moral law.Might chat with Tony regarding licensing. I know a bejillion folks don't license but technically the handheld on the ground needs a station license.
If the FCC can prove that I wasn't sitting in the Cub talking to my student... Seriously, they are right about the "ground station" licensing, but in an emergency (ie. student pilot on solo having issues) I believe that there is a higher moral law.
It's completely silly that I can legally sit in the Cub on the ground and talk to my student in another aircraft on the radio, and not legally talk to him if I step out of it two feet and do the same.
Ryan
But aren't they the ones supposed to guard the morals of the public airwaves?We are talking about the FCC, you can't expect common sense and morals.
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But aren't they the ones supposed to guard the morals of the public airwaves?
Ryan
Frankly I'm interested in having a properly licensed airband radio, which is why I've been following this thread. Sorry about the illegal comment. I'm pretty sensitive when it comes to people who break easy to comply with rules based on principle - probably irrationally so. No disrespect intended.
Topic for a new post, but I suspect that pilots know the difference between laws and regulations, and that both are equally enforceable. Happy to take that offline or to a different thread.
Every wacko can buy an aviation transceiver legally.I think the idea is that not every wacko can buy a radio and transmit on the aircraft band
And the major problem with that is that if you have a student on solo, especially if the aircraft only has one radio, you want him to be on the CTAF frequency, and do NOT need to be on some separate frequency assigned by the FCC... If I REALLY think I need to talk to a student (and I try not to, but I've had one student who panicked and needed the help).To start , you till need a FRN from the FCC. You can get one at the FCC ULS website , enter your information and one will be assigned to you.
You then have to apply for the station license you would be requesting.
You can find the descriptions here
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=about&id=ground_stations
The one affecting instructors looks to be "Aviation Support"
At a glance, it would look as if you would need to be assigned a frequency to use from a local frequency coordinator , and then you are licensed to operate on that frequency only at your licensed location .
And the major problem with that is that if you have a student on solo, especially if the aircraft only has one radio, you want him to be on the CTAF frequency, and do NOT need to be on some separate frequency assigned by the FCC... If I REALLY think I need to talk to a student (and I try not to, but I've had one student who panicked and needed the help).
Ryan