Walmart Offers Jobs To Returning War Vets

[Tony_Scarpelli]

Not a veteran are you?

Plenty of companies have offered preference to veterans. I doubt if any private company was ever in the position to offer full employment, but since Walmart employees 1% of the population and has a very high turnover, they can truly do it.

Once again, I'm not bashing Walmart, only saying we can do better, much better. When I go to the airport and see the TSA agents, I would like to see nothing but veterans, but that isn't even close to the case. Same with the post office, IRS, meter reader, etc.

BTW- Sitting on unemployment, or disability, claiming SSI, is there fricken right if they need it. Unlike most of those other worthless parasites they have 110% earned it.

This thread is becoming really upsetting and disappointing to me, I need to take a break from it.

Alex there is a 5 points veterans preference and it has been in place since VN. I took the test for PO and got a 86, they added 5 points to my score so I was called when they got to the 90's. By that time I had a better job and didn't accept it. This system is for all GS jobs. Judging from my own experiences Vets often want nothing to do with the government when they get home. I didn't.

But god bless them all and I hope we can turn this economy so that they and everyone else can find gainful existence.

 

[Tony_Scarpelli]

Viet Nam Era.

Thank you, Brother!

 

[Tony_Scarpelli]

John-

We as a nation asked a bunch of young people to fight two wars over the last 10 years. They volunteered when others didn't and did everything we asked. Today over 5,000 are lost and over 50,000 are wounded. Many will carry those scars for the rest of their lives. If our government at any level has a job and a veteran needs one, then that is an automatic hire IMO. The bottom line is we owe them a great debt.

Otherwise, I would agree 100% with you.

I just thought this bares repeating. Our returning war vets deserve the best opportunities we have to offer: Education, housing, jobs and as does the survivors (family) of the lost vets.

 

[Tony_Scarpelli]

What would your response be if it were Starbucks?

Well, Yes i would probably still think it is a marketing promotion. However, Starbucks employees with their tips earn about 30% more than Walmart. They have better benefits and just as good promotional opportunities. Starbuck is active in the Fair trade movement of paying more than market prices for coffee and paying it directly to the growers so that they can make a living wage (usually family owned and operated farms).

Yes, I feel differently about Starbucks than I do Walmart. I used to feel this way about Walmart when Sam Walton was at the helm but these bastards that run it now are just a bunch of snot nosed mba's from Wall-street with the same ethics the bankrupt this country.

 

[Geico266]

We don't owe them anything, other than maybe respect. They volunteered, were compensated for their time and effort and now are leaving to find a new job. In fact, they have various ways to further themselves after they separate from their job, but no, you want more. You want a job given to them. No one held a gun to these people's heads and forced them.

Nice.

 

[Geico266]

Thank you, Brother!

You are welcome, bro.

 

[Sac Arrow]

I'm a veteran. I don't feel entitled. Although I think it's great Walmart is giving veterans jobs, publicity stunt or not.

Aside from that, yawn. I'm having a hard time figuring out what people are getting all worked up about. We have a lot more pressing issues that affect all of us.

 

[Jay Honeck]

Shop local and shop small whenever possible.

Exactly! Mary and I always find the locally owned, independent, non-franchised hotels and restaurants in every town we visit. I can't remember the last time we were disappointed.

Sadly, we are forced to shop at Walmart for some items, and are routinely disappointed. Unfortunately, it's hard to find independent refrigerator stores anymore.

I'm always amazed when I talk to folks who just went on vacation, and only stayed in chain motels and ate at chain restaurants. IMHO, they might as well have stayed home.

 

[ChrisK]

I'm a veteran. I don't feel entitled. Although I think it's great Walmart is giving veterans jobs, publicity stunt or not.

Aside from that, yawn. I'm having a hard time figuring out what people are getting all worked up about. We have a lot more pressing issues that affect all of us.

+3. This story doesn't merit so much attention. People hate Wal-Mart and the government. Right I knew that.

 

[Tony_Scarpelli]

Its about honor and character and I might talk all day and yet some here will not understand it at all. Most vets do not receive a penny after leaving the service. Most vets serve one or two or three tours of duty for honor to defend their country. Very few vets stay long enough to retire, we call them lifers.

Vets might get medical benefits (not cash) if they sustain injuries while in the service. Last I heard less than 1 in 5 even uses his G.I.BIll to help with education when they get out. So I am unsure what you think vets ask for or receive they are not entitled to?

I would really appreciate it greatly if you would stop bad mouthing Vets or talking about what you obviously know little about.

So why don't we see similar hiring sprees for people who are retiring from being a police officer or fire fighter?

I'm sorry, until there is a draft again, people don't deserve anything because they simply served in the military. They made the decision to go there. They took the compensation offered for their job. They already get numerous benefits that the regular civilian can't get. Yet, they always want more. In general, the military seems to be some of the most ideologically confused group in the world. Generally, they are vastly conservative, yet at the same time, they are looking for whatever government handout they can get.

 

[Henning]

What other company, in the history of this country, has offered full time employment to all returning veterans?

Certainly, this is not the last job these vets will have, but it is a hell of a lot better than sitting around collecting unemployment, SSI, claiming disability, ect. It is a hand up, not a hand out.

USPS.

 

[Henning]

I'm sorry, until there is a draft again, people don't deserve anything because they simply served in the military. They made the decision to go there. They took the compensation offered for their job. They already get numerous benefits that the regular civilian can't get..

Agreed, nobody was forced to go into the military and many I know who went did so because it was an easy option and a way to get benefits. As long as it's a volunteer force, don't come whining. BTW, they aren't defending my rights, they are perpetuating an industrial and economic system that should have been developed past decades ago that is running this country and the world into the dirt.

 

[KSCessnaDriver]

Vets might get medical benefits (not cash) if they sustain injuries while in the service. Last I heard less than 1 in 5 even uses his G.I.BIll to help with education when they get out. So I am unsure what you think vets ask for or receive they are not entitled to?

Why would only 1 in 5 only use the G.I. Bill. Are they really that dumb to not take advantage of every resource they have available to them? Or is it to hard to use, and they'd rather just get an easy to get job at Walmart?


They signed up for the job, they reap the benefits and get the downsides they sign up for.

 

[hindsight2020]

Agreed, nobody was forced to go into the military and many I know who went did so because it was an easy option and a way to get benefits. As long as it's a volunteer force, don't come whining. BTW, they aren't defending my rights, they are perpetuating an industrial and economic system that should have been developed past decades ago that is running this country and the world into the dirt.

Well, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water now, brother. You seem like an intelligent and thoughtful person, is it really that difficult to fathom that military membership does not preclude one from recognizing the existence and perils of the military-industrial complex you are addressing with your post? As a current Servicemember and one who is in fact quite critical of the cultural and architectural idyosyncracies that foster the wasteful spending present in today's mil-ind complex, I find it a little too broad a stroke to assert that just because there is wasteful spending in the military, that ALL the military is wasteful. Is life that high-contrast in your purview? Becuase life is grey through my lenses...

I assure you if my job went away today I would attempt to find something else to do with my life. I certainly was just another joe civilian before I put on the bag, and I will be one when I take it off. I would encourage you in the name of objectivity to make the same broad generalizations about civilian defense contractors. I happen to find their role in this dynamic much more overarching and insidious, but because they don't wear a military uniform and/or their employer is doesn't have the word .GOV associated with it they are all of a sudden good ol' hard-working tax payin' folky saints among the public sector hater's club we call POA?

Meh, civilians are just as complicit in the military industrial complex as the underwater mortgage, 2 escalades to a house married dual income E-5s with bogus 30% disability, cement drums on the back of the PCS truck, military welfare cases you so exclusively narrow your criticism of. For every military installation glowing with waste, there is a local civilian economy fighting tooth and nail to keep it. These so-called downsides to military life (location being one of them) are not occuring in a vaccum. My job is wasteful alright, because it is being used as a federal wealth transfer instrument for the sustainment of uncompetitive CIVILIAN local economies in undesirable geographical locations that should have been wiped out off the face of the planet 50 years ago. It has nothing to do with the mission. That's not military folks, that civilian folks. You do realize military top leadership is civilian right? To be balanced and all...

As to defending you rights, similar arguments are made by childless people in their disdain for public education expenditures. We can disagree as to the scope and magnitude of public investment in anything, be it military or educational spending. But the idea of opting out completely of the basic governance of a populace is just myopic and outside the basic tenant of accepting to live in a social construct aka civilization. You either have the kid or pay for someone else to have it with your taxes, you either stand post or pay someone else to do it for you. In the end you pay as you should, for that is the basic contract of our society. Kids have to be born regardless of who is doing it; the population has to be educated regardless of who is doing it, as a basic tenant. Don't like it? go off the grid. Fussing about it while enjoying the marginal benefits of that 'waste' is just going to make you irritable.

 

[ChrisK]

Why would only 1 in 5 only use the G.I. Bill. Are they really that dumb to not take advantage of every resource they have available to them? Or is it to hard to use, and they'd rather just get an easy to get job at Walmart?


They signed up for the job, they reap the benefits and get the downsides they sign up for.

I doubt it is "Hm GI bill? Nah, I'll just take a Wal-Mart job".

 

[KSCessnaDriver]

I doubt it is "Hm GI bill? Nah, I'll just take a Wal-Mart job".

So, if the stat is true, why are only 1 in 5 using the GI Bill?

 

[alaskaflyer]

I would really appreciate it greatly if you would stop bad mouthing Vets or talking about what you obviously know little about.

I don't read his posts as bad mouthing vets. He says that they are getting exactly what they signed up for which is quite a lot already, and I tend to agree.

And expressing opinions is what this board is mostly about. Except for an expressed desire to punch a fellow poster in the nose, I don't think that anything said in this thread has been inappropriate.

 

[alaskaflyer]

So, if the stat is true, why are only 1 in 5 using the GI Bill?

If it is true, the only reason we can afford the GI Bill is because only 20% utilize it?

 

[Maxmosbey]

I don't know why such a huge percentage of eligible vets do not take advantage of the GI Bill, but that is nothing new. I got out of the Navy in 1975 and when I went to college on the GI Bill it was much the same. The Veteran's Administration was begging returning Vets to use it. I can't remember the statistics but one in five probably is close. So after a couple of years working part time and going to college full time, I went to working full time and started going to college part time to get a degree. I was working on the police department at that time, and there were two command officers who were really down on me for "wasting" their tax money. I remember one Lieutenant asking me what I was going to do with a degree when I got it, and I told him that I didn't know, but that I just wanted to get it. I kind of joked that I wanted to be the first one in my family to get a college degree. He really let loose on me over that. Of course he didn't have any education beyond a high school education and used that as his argument why a college degree was a waste of time. But by the time I got promoted to Lieutenant one of the qualifications was at least a four year degree, so I guess that I didn't waste his money after all. He was dead by then, so I couldn't tell him how glad I was that I took advantage of the GI Bill and his tax money.

 

[VanDy]

I doubt it is entirely self funded, but you do realize that the vets have to pay $1,200 into the GI Bill to be able to use it. That is where some of the funding comes from. Although I doubt its enough to fund all of it.

 

[VanDy]

I don't know why such a huge percentage of eligible vets do not take advantage of the GI Bill, but that is nothing new.

I got out the Marines with a skilled trade that I used to get a job when I got out. I didn't need the degree but I am still getting one so that I can move up the food chain later. I imagine that settling for 'good enough' is a large reason some vets don't continue their education.

 

[Maxmosbey]

I got out the Marines with a skilled trade that I used to get a job when I got out. I didn't need the degree but I am still getting one so that I can move up the food chain later. I imagine that settling for 'good enough' is a large reason some vets don't continue their education.

At the time of the Viet Nam war we did not contribute anything to the GI Bill. Or at least I never consciously did. Just after I got on the PD they changed the education requirements to a two year degree in Criminal Justice for promotions above Sgt. So a lot of the guys on the PD who were vets used their GI bill to get a two year degree. Once I got going I just kept going, and I ended up with a four year degree, not in Criminal Justice, but a degree none the less. I never planned to make law enforcement a career anyway, that just happened. Then one day, decades later, they changed the requirements to a two year degree in any major for Sgts and a four year degree in any major for Lieutenants and Captains. They gave everyone six months notice before testing to get the qualifications. Those who strove for the minimums were sorely disappointed. Needless to say, that four year degree was like gold when that happened.

 

[Henning]

Well, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water now, brother. You seem like an intelligent and thoughtful person, is it really that difficult to fathom that military membership does not preclude one from recognizing the existence and perils of the military-industrial complex you are addressing with your post? As a current Servicemember and one who is in fact quite critical of the cultural and architectural idyosyncracies that foster the wasteful spending present in today's mil-ind complex, I find it a little too broad a stroke to assert that just because there is wasteful spending in the military, that ALL the military is wasteful. Is life that high-contrast in your purview? Becuase life is grey through my lenses...

I assure you if my job went away today I would attempt to find something else to do with my life. I certainly was just another joe civilian before I put on the bag, and I will be one when I take it off. I would encourage you in the name of objectivity to make the same broad generalizations about civilian defense contractors. I happen to find their role in this dynamic much more overarching and insidious, but because they don't wear a military uniform and/or their employer is doesn't have the word .GOV associated with it they are all of a sudden good ol' hard-working tax payin' folky saints among the public sector hater's club we call POA?

Meh, civilians are just as complicit in the military industrial complex as the underwater mortgage, 2 escalades to a house married dual income E-5s with bogus 30% disability, cement drums on the back of the PCS truck, military welfare cases you so exclusively narrow your criticism of. For every military installation glowing with waste, there is a local civilian economy fighting tooth and nail to keep it. These so-called downsides to military life (location being one of them) are not occuring in a vaccum. My job is wasteful alright, because it is being used as a federal wealth transfer instrument for the sustainment of uncompetitive CIVILIAN local economies in undesirable geographical locations that should have been wiped out off the face of the planet 50 years ago. It has nothing to do with the mission. That's not military folks, that civilian folks. You do realize military top leadership is civilian right? To be balanced and all...

As to defending you rights, similar arguments are made by childless people in their disdain for public education expenditures. We can disagree as to the scope and magnitude of public investment in anything, be it military or educational spending. But the idea of opting out completely of the basic governance of a populace is just myopic and outside the basic tenant of accepting to live in a social construct aka civilization. You either have the kid or pay for someone else to have it with your taxes, you either stand post or pay someone else to do it for you. In the end you pay as you should, for that is the basic contract of our society. Kids have to be born regardless of who is doing it; the population has to be educated regardless of who is doing it, as a basic tenant. Don't like it? go off the grid. Fussing about it while enjoying the marginal benefits of that 'waste' is just going to make you irritable.

No worries on those accounts bro, been there a long time. My points as to defense of rights is that there is no threat to my rights that the military fights for. There is no threat to my rights coming from any external source, the threat to my rights comes from the 'Mommy Lobby' right here at home which the military is not tasked to defend me from, in fact is specifically restricted from acting against by law. What the military has done since WWII is protected the banking interests in the oil and rubber sectors in Asia and the Mid East and the access to markets to grow the Consumerism economic system we live under which we called "The Cold War".

As to Childless People of which I am one, I have never complained about public education and personally back even greater expenditures along those lines. The best defense of my rights as well as the economic welfare of the nation is through a well educated populace.