VFR to MVFR/IFR on GoPro--would you post it on YouTube?
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From 14 CFR 1.1:
"IFR conditions means weather conditions below the minimum for flight under visual flight rules."
exncsurfer
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"This video has been removed by the user."
POAer perhaps? That didn't take long.
bflynn
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I've lost count - how many is that now?
azure
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Yes, that's the FAA's legal definition. I guess I was referring to the flight category, since AFAIK there is no legal definition of MVFR in the FARs - that's also a flight category.
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I've heard of flying in the soup before but this guy was definitely flying in the coleslaw.
JasonM
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Here he is flying into known icing without a FIKI aircraft. Having and IFR rating, this guy should really be much better on the radios as well as do a little better planning on his trips.
azure
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He was cruising in the cauliflower, that's for sure.
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How are you 100% VFR when the cloud deck is right above the canopy?
You wouldn't be.
Strike everything I said, I'll have to watch the full vid when I have time, which I don't right now.
"This video has been removed by the user."
On the deck offshore, he would have been legal, but he was in the IFR buffer zone beneath the clouds the whole time.
TangoWhiskey
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I know that people do this and have done it for years before YouTube. But the music....
I know a well respected pilot and mechanic who flies to Oshkosh every year. He often has to climb through layers to avoid getting into scud running scenarios.
When he got back this year, he told me "The weather was great! It was the first year I didn't have to go IMC going up there (from Texas) or coming back!"
I told him "That's a good thing, since you're not instrument rated!"
He pointed a finger at me with a wink, knowingly acknowledging.
Forecast: Clouds with scattered aluminum.
azure
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Depends on whether he has instrument training and files, or just turns on the A/P and plows on through. The first may not be legal, but might be safe depending on the individual. I wouldn't really lose respect for him if he did that. Not having a piece of paper is between him and the FAA.
The second option... well, I don't want to share airspace with him if that's what he does.
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Poor wording on the weather product. VMC/IMC=Conditions. VFR/IFR=Rules of flight. Big difference. You can fly IFR in VMC and IFR in IMC, but VFR in IMC is a no-no.
Poor wording on the weather product. VMC/IMC=Conditions. VFR/IFR=Rules of flight. Big difference. You can fly IFR in VMC and IFR in IMC, but VFR in IMC is a no-no.
But you can fly VFR in actual instrument conditions. VMC/IMC is defined by the VFR cloud clearance/visibilities. Actual instrument conditions is not.
I held up an "MVFR" sign on one of my departures from OSH this year.
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Not relevant.
The video in question was obviously closer to clouds than VFR minimums. Too high for Class G (in that area) and nowhere near Class B, so he had to be 500 feet below.
So, he was in IMC. Briefly, also in actual instrument conditions.
I was responding to the post I quoted. I already pointed out that I believed he was in the IMC (both in the cloud briefly and too close for much of the rest of time).
