Vegas area accomodations/to-do's?

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My wife and I are planning to head out to Las Vegas in March for our combination birthdays/Christmas/anniversary trip. Our plan at this point is to drive down to Kansas City and take AmTrak to Flagstaff, AZ. From there, we'll rent a car in Flagstaff and drive around to check out the Grand Canyon, then drive the ~4 hrs to Las Vegas. We're not sure what we're gonna do once we get there - we'll be too broke after paying for the trip to be able to gamble much. Then we'll fly commercial from Vegas back to Iowa either via OMA, DSM, or MCI.

So... My question is -- where should we stay in Vegas? Be advised that we are on a smallish budget, but I don't want to sacrifice the 'experience' to save a few bucks. Also, other than the casinos, what else is the 'must see' in the Vegas area in March? Our schedule allows for a Saturday to Sunday 8 day trip.

Thanks for any tips!
 
Chris,

Rooms.

There are many places to stay on the strip that won't break you. Rooms at the Stratosphere are below $100/night. The Imperial Palace is a little older, but right in the middle of the strip. Anyplace downtown will be cheap, and it's a fun place to stay.


Things to see.

1. Fremont Street Experience. Some evening take a cab downtown, I think there is a show every half hour.

2. Fountains at Bellagio

3. The Wynn Hotel- just go there, you won't believe your eyes.

4. The shark reef at Mandalay Bay is worthwhile

5. The Forum shops at Caesars. For God sake don't buy anything, just go to look. I get a kick out of the $700 T-shirts at Versace.

6. The white tigers at Mirage. They're kinda cute, it's fun to guess which one ate Roy.


Gambling

There are still places that you can gamble "inexpensively". O'Sheas next to the imperial palace on the strip, Barbary Coast next to Balley's, and most places downtown will still have 3$ craps, 5$ blackjack, $.25 roulette, and Penny slots. If you're into poker most places now have rooms.

You want to have fun on the cheap while gambling? Go to the sports book at Ceasars and play the ponies in the afternoon. They have huge TV's where they simulcast horse races from all over the country. You can sit for hours and make $2 bets as often or as little as you want, and you can really have fun. Most places have sheets that explain the bets and the people at the betting windows are usually helpful. Of course, it will be time for March madness, so if you want to bet games you can go nuts.


Food

You can go crazy on food in Vegas. You want it? They got it. Many places have the buffet, but they're not as cheap as they used to be.

It ain't cheap, but my personal favorite is Hugo's Cellar at the Four Queens downtown. You won't find a better chateaubriand and lobster anywhere. It'll be fun for your wife as well, every lady gets a red rose when they are seated and few places anymore have service like they still provide.

Shows
Expensive! If you want a good show, one of the best I've been to is Mama Mia! at Mandalay Bay. $100. I also really enjoyed the Blue Man Group at the Venetian, but they're not for everyone.


I'll be there the last week of February on a men's weekend with my brothers. My brother got comp'd three nights at Paris. Woo Hoo! What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Please.

James Dean
 
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The above advice was excellent, but let me add a little more. If you are planning on getting a rental car, the Las Vegas Hilton is the place to stay. One block off the strip, but with a car, it's no problem. Rooms are reasonable and service and comps are great. No car, I would suggest maybe the Tropicanna. I have stayed at the Imperial Palace and would not do it again. As far as shows, pick out one good one you would really like to see and pre-buy your tickets. The rest of the time, try the cheap comedy shows (Trop, Harrahs,etc.) and enjoy all the free lounge acts. The one thing the Imperial palace is good for is the car show on the 7th floor. $7.50 if i recall to get in and it was worth it. One more option is to call the Hilton Grand Vacation Club and tell them you're thinking of buying. Charged me $50 a night to stay in a condo adjacent to the hotels. Had to sit through a 45 minute speech. Not bad at all. Have Fun.
 
One thing to do is hang out with me :D I'm pretty dang close to Las Vegas now!

Unfortunately, the only thing in Vegas that I know about is the Casinos so far. I haven't yet strolled out to the rest of the city, assuming one exists beyond the Strip.
 
I stay way off of the strip. But I am there visiting relatives. I stay out by the NW near the airport up there at either the of the Station Casino/Hotels (Santa Fe or Texan). Cheap, clean, plenty of parking and NOT on the strip.

For fun. Head up to Valley of Fire State Park. If you are a Star Trek fan this is where Generations was filmed. If not, then just enjoy the beauty of the area and plan a few hikes. Also a trip up Mt. Charleston is great. Yes, it does get cold but sometimes that is nice to escape the Vegas heat. If it is winter there is also skiing up there. Nice forest and hot springs to hike through. You can also get a good view of the Nevada Proving ground where all the nukes were set off in the 1950's and 60's

To the SW is redrock. That is more hiking, geology, and natural beauty. If you are so inlined a further trek towards Palm Springs will bring you through the coolest Joshua tree forest I have ever seen as you head into the Mojave NF. IF you have time a nice ride is up to the NE all the Great Basin highway.

Lastly, for kitsch, go see the Liberace museum. They take it very seriously and that just makes the whole experience even more fun.

I honestly cannot recommend anything on the strip. I have been to Vegas too many times and I have seen it all there. Once is a enough, and I have seen it more than a dozen times. If this is your first trip do see it, especially at night.
 
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Chris, why not taking the RV? That's a beautiful flight.

That would definitely be an awesome flight out. There's a group of RV'ers that make an annual Southwest trip every year and their pics and write-ups are awe-inspiring.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid Rachel can't handle that long of a trip just yet. She's still getting her 'wings' polished up so I'd rather ease her into it with some shorter flights before taking a true cross-country trip like this. It's definitely on the to-do list, though.
 
For fun. Head up to Valley of Fire State Park. If you are a Star Trek fan this is where Generations was filmed. If not, then just enjoy the beauty of the area and plan a few hikes.[...]
I honestly cannot recommend anything on the strip. I have been to Vegas too many times and I have seen it all there. Once is a enough, and I have seen it more than a dozen times. If this is your first trip do see it, especially at night.
Isn't there a Star Trek Experience at one of the hotels? I've been meaning to go to that, but haven't had the opportunity.
 
My wife and I are planning to head out to Las Vegas in March for our combination birthdays/Christmas/anniversary trip. Our plan at this point is to drive down to Kansas City and take AmTrak to Flagstaff, AZ. From there, we'll rent a car in Flagstaff and drive around to check out the Grand Canyon, then drive the ~4 hrs to Las Vegas. We're not sure what we're gonna do once we get there - we'll be too broke after paying for the trip to be able to gamble much. Then we'll fly commercial from Vegas back to Iowa either via OMA, DSM, or MCI.

So... My question is -- where should we stay in Vegas? Be advised that we are on a smallish budget, but I don't want to sacrifice the 'experience' to save a few bucks. Also, other than the casinos, what else is the 'must see' in the Vegas area in March? Our schedule allows for a Saturday to Sunday 8 day trip.

Thanks for any tips!

Well, any of the casino hotels on the strip offers some good deals on rooms. Check you paper and if you can get a copy, the LA Times. Whatever you do though, don't miss the mall at Ceasars Palace. Very nicely done. In a previous itteration of my life, I spent a lot of time in Vegas wating for my clients (professional gamblers) to be ready to leave, so I'll pass on my personal rules and observations. This may get long...

Slot machines...don't bother. If you just have to feed a bandit, feed the ones next to the entrance doors. All the machines are set to pay off a legally mandated amount, but there is no rule on how often they pay. The machines by the door are set to pay more frequently. They don't pay as much per hit, but you are more likely to get a pay out. Anyway you cut it though, they're for suckers. Look at a casino from a business perspective. The limiting factor of how much money a casino can make is floor space, so they'll dedicate the most space to what makes them the most money and most of the space is covered with machines. Craps offers the best odds in the house on a game of chance. It's the only place where you can get even odds with the house and that is on a "behind the line" bet. Problem is that craps is a complex game and if you don't know what you are doing and pick your winnings up quickly, chances are you'll lose them on the next roll before you even realize you won them. If you want to play, watch the craps lesson on "The Gambling Channel" in your room twice, then head down for one of the morning craps classes on the casino floor where you learn to play with their chips no risk. This is stricktly a game of chance. Roulette to me is another suckers game. Purely a game of chance, and if you put a dollar on everything, you lose two dollars. The card games are the only games where you have some control. The only game you can get into on a budget is blackjack. Find the cheapest table you can get on, this is where you find me after I'm out of the sportsbook playing the horses (horses require a lot of work handicapping, if you don't know how, stay away. If you know how, this is where you make your living, and you make it on show bets).

Now comes my betting strategy. First off, never walk into the casino with more than $40. After many many many days of sitting at the tables, I found that if I was bgoing to make money, I'll make it on $40. After that I'm just chasing bad money with good. The luck is either with me or not. If I lose my $40, it's time to do something else. I start with minimum bets and maintain minimum bets (allowing the blackjack bonus to ride on the bet) until I have my initial $40 back + $20 in winnings. My initial $40 now goes back in my pocket and doesn't come out again. Now, I allow half the win to build on the bet and draw the other half to the rail. I continue this until I lose a hand, THEN I RETURN TO A MINIMUM BET AND START BUILDING OVER. The whole double your lost bet method is a crock. If I lose three hands in a row, I leave the table. If thay change dealers and I lose the first two hands, I leave the table. If a Vietnamese woman comes in to deal, I leave the table (I have never won a hand against a Vietnamese woman, YMMV). If there is a dealer you do well against, follow them around. There used to be a dealer at the Tropicana who couldn't beat me, believe what you may, I believe there is a kharmic connection between people. When I get up $1500 the next hand I lose, it's time to toss the dealer their tip and say good night.

Now, little know thing. The Pit Bosses and Floor Managers hand out comps (complimentary meals, shows and rooms/upgrades) based on time played regardless of bet size (unless you are a high roller or known whale) or winning or losing. Typically two hours gets you a meal, four a show ticket five gets you both. Rarely do I play for less than four hours on my $40, so when that's gone, I'll ask the Pit Boss for some show tickets (dinner is cheap, shows get expensive, you get where I'm going right?). One thing I do do is track 10s, faces and aces. With a shoe you can't track all the cards, and since they shuffle 2/3-3/4 way down the shoe it's not hugely accurate, but if you've seen 18 aces and 100 10s & faces get used, you know the odds are against you getting one.

When you you are out of your $40, go see the sights, a show, or hang out at the pool.
 
You can go crazy on food in Vegas. You want it? They got it. Many places have the buffet, but they're not as cheap as they used to be.

Yeah, that was the bummer when Vegas went Corporate, no more $2 Steak and Lobster. Back in the day Binions had a $2 S&L that was really good, then one day about 18 years ago that dissappeared from everywhere, but you can still get comped your meal for 2 hours of play if you just ask the Pit Boss.
 
One thing to do is hang out with me :D I'm pretty dang close to Las Vegas now!

Unfortunately, the only thing in Vegas that I know about is the Casinos so far. I haven't yet strolled out to the rest of the city, assuming one exists beyond the Strip.

Two Words for ya Nick, Tango Bravo
 
Isn't there a Star Trek Experience at one of the hotels? I've been meaning to go to that, but haven't had the opportunity.

Why yes there is/nd is is really great. Both the Star Trek Experience and the BorgInvasion 4D are at the LV Hilton. There is also the resturant threre, Quarks, That is a must visit for lunch

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0356069/
Is where I wrote a detailed report on that adventure
 
Chris. Motel 6 across from the MGM. I stay there frequently. Good rates. Walk across the street to catch the monorail.
Havasu is about a 3 hour drive from the grand canyon. Drive here and I'll fly y'all to Vegas :)
 
Chris: My Army reunion group used to stay at the Plaza on Fremont Street for less that $40 per night (probably a group rate but worth checking). Rooms weren't luxury, but clean. We didn't spend a lot of time in the room anyway. You'd have to take a cab to the strip from there (or the bus) but there is plenty to do in that area alone.

I usually hit the shops Eggman talked about. (I always think of them as being across from Bellagio). Lunch at Bellagio is really neat. There's an indoor atrium and garden where a lot of folks get married. Lunch there is great and you get to tour the area also.

Lots of shows. Be sure to look ahead and book in advance for the very popular ones.

I always flew into VGT; they have a free van to downtown or the strip. You will have to get back by cab (if you fly in in the future).

I have always done what Henning suggests as to betting. Look at it as a form of entertainment; don't bet more than you would be willing to lose. All those nice places aren't built on big payouts to winners <g>

Lots of very good places to eat that are reasonable. There are still some nickel slots and several for a quarter if you just have to play them (my Dad used to always find them <g>)

Have a wonderful time. Your wife should like the shops next to Ceasars.
Best,

Dave
 
My wife and I are planning to head out to Las Vegas in March for our combination birthdays/Christmas/anniversary trip. Our plan at this point is to drive down to Kansas City and take AmTrak to Flagstaff, AZ. From there, we'll rent a car in Flagstaff and drive around to check out the Grand Canyon, then drive the ~4 hrs to Las Vegas. We're not sure what we're gonna do once we get there - we'll be too broke after paying for the trip to be able to gamble much. .....

No problem .. geez .. if you like the outdoors, there's so much to do here outside of a casino that is free (or very cheap) .. you didn't mention how long you would be staying, but here are a few possibilities:
1) Red Rock Canyon
2) Valley of Fire
3) Lake Mead Recreation Area (a beautiful scenic loop along the lake that you can take to the Valley of Fire)
4) Hoover Dam
5) Mt Charleston - a hidden gem for Las Vegas residents
6) Zion National Park - an easy day trip from LV
7) Grand Canyon West
and of course ...
8) Breakfast or Lunch at the North Las Vegas airport cafe - cheap food and a great place to sit and plane watch on the terrace!

Save the strip for the evenings when you can sit at one of the lounges in almost any casino, have a drink and listen to good live bands for free ... there's lots to due here if you are on a budget!

Have fun .. Dan
 
My parents just stayed at Lake Las Vegas resort in Henderson. (Pretty sure that was the name) 20 miles outside of Vegas, but a nice place on a 300 acre lake. Might be worth a shot.
 
hey its only twice as far as alabama! She made it there and back, right? just like doing it twice :D
 
Isn't there a Star Trek Experience at one of the hotels? I've been meaning to go to that, but haven't had the opportunity.

Hilton.

Frankly, all it is is a pair of rides which were insanely expensive. I think for one ride on each you had to pay $40.

The free part is kind of cool, there's a gift shop with lots of props and such from the various shows. You can even buy Romulan Ale. :cheers:

Chris, a couple of suggestions: First, definitely see the fountains at the Bellagio. Second, if you're driving to Vegas, do it at night. I forget where you're coming from, but if you come from the north on I-15 the view is absolutely spectacular. You go from total darkness to seeing the whole city spread out in the valley below in about 15 seconds. Very cool.

Enjoy your trip!
 
I forget where you're coming from, but if you come from the north on I-15 the view is absolutely spectacular. You go from total darkness to seeing the whole city spread out in the valley below in about 15 seconds. Very cool.

Enjoy your trip!

I used to love flying back from Vegas to Long Beach at night especiallwhen the Santa Anna's were blowing and there was a couple hundred miles of vis. I'd fly iver the coastal range at 11k and as you clear them you leave total darkness and the entire So Cal basin just opens up with all the lights. Click on 122.7 and you can watch Catalina and San Clemente runways light up. It's a magnificent view.
 
Hilton.

Frankly, all it is is a pair of rides which were insanely expensive. I think for one ride on each you had to pay $40.

The free part is kind of cool, there's a gift shop with lots of props and such from the various shows. You can even buy Romulan Ale. :cheers:

I don't remember it being that expensive but maybe the rasied the prices. But a true Trekkie would not balk at that price. You must be a Babylon 5 fan :vomit:

BTW I have a six pack of Romulan ale in my house.
 
First, definitely see the fountains at the Bellagio. Second, if you're driving to Vegas, do it at night.
Enjoy your trip!

Last time I was there, they were playing "Time to Say Goodbye" sung by Sarah Brightman and Andrea Bocelli. Wonderful song that I always loved. As the piece reached the crescendo, the lighted fountains spewed up high into the air in time with it. Gave me goosebumps up and down!

Shops are across the street.

Let us know how it goes.

Best,

Dave
 
Last time I was there, they were playing "Time to Say Goodbye" sung by Sarah Brightman and Andrea Bocelli. Wonderful song that I always loved. As the piece reached the crescendo, the lighted fountains spewed up high into the air in time with it. Gave me goosebumps up and down!

Shops are across the street.

Let us know how it goes.

Best,

Dave

there is music there? Huh! I had just watched them from room up at Ceaser's Palace and thought that was cool enough and I avoided the crowds.
 
I don't remember it being that expensive but maybe the rasied the prices. But a true Trekkie would not balk at that price. You must be a Babylon 5 fan :vomit:

BTW I have a six pack of Romulan ale in my house.
Actually, I like them both. Firefly, too!
 
Frankly, all it is is a pair of rides which were insanely expensive. I think for one ride on each you had to pay $40.
I don't think I would describe it as a "ride" although at one point you're in a small theater with 3D glasses and it seems like a ride. As I remember it was a series of sets you travel through and become part of a story with the bad guys chasing you, etc. I can't remember too much more because I'm not a trekkie. In fact I can't recall having seen any of the movies or even the TV show. The only reason I went was that my flying buddy wanted to see it and it seemed like an OK way to kill the afternoon. You're right about the price, it was in the $30 to $40 range which probably would have been more worth it if I had understood what was going on. :dunno:
 
there is music there? Huh! I had just watched them from room up at Ceaser's Palace and thought that was cool enough and I avoided the crowds.

Yea Scott, you really missed it if you like music. Of course, it depends what they are playing. Usually have a schedule so you know what they are playing and when.

Best,

Dave
 
I don't remember it being that expensive but maybe the rasied the prices. But a true Trekkie would not balk at that price. You must be a Babylon 5 fan :vomit:

No, I'm a fan of having $40 last longer than a half hour, unless I'm in an airplane. :goofy:
 
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