Vanilla Air to cancel 154 flights due to pilot shortage

Yeah, what are they paying these regional/entry level pilots there? Eventually the 'pilot shortage' game and rising prices of training combined with the diminishing compensation packages will cause an "Industry that cried wolf' situation.
 
Funny, I just looked them up. On there website no info on employment, and google vanilla sky employment/careers, nothing current comes up. Only thing is from 2011 when they started operations.
 
TommyG said:
Funny, I just looked them up. On there website no info on employment, and google vanilla sky employment/careers, nothing current comes up. Only thing is from 2011 when they started operations.
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I found this Vanilla Air job ad for A320 captains; can't tell if it is current or relevant to the cancelled flights:

https://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH07/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=HACS&cws=2&rid=68

Trainee pay of ¥650,000 seems to be about $104,000 US at current exchange rates.
 
Jim Logajan said:
I found this Vanilla Air job ad for A320 captains; can't tell if it is current or relevant to the cancelled flights:

https://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH07/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=HACS&cws=2&rid=68

Trainee pay of ¥650,000 seems to be about $104,000 US at current exchange rates.
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Trainee pay is noted for a max of three months, which is the pay received until line qualified.

650,000 yen = $6402/month. The pay once line qualified is $10,835/month (Y1,100,000)
 
RotorAndWing said:
Trainee pay is noted for a max of three months, which is the pay received until line qualified.

650,000 yen = $6402/month. The pay once line qualified is $10,835/month (Y1,100,000)
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How far does that go in Japan?
 
Henning said:
I haven't been in Japan in quite a few years, but back then cost of living in Japan was about 4 times what it was here.
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Yep. Just like larger fuel tanks are the cheapest speed mod out there, low population density is the cheapest way to feel affluent. Which is why I love Flyover Country aka. non-coastal USA. :D
 
hindsight2020 said:
Yep. Just like larger fuel tanks are the cheapest speed mod out there, low population density is the cheapest way to feel affluent. Which is why I love Flyover Country aka. non-coastal USA. :D
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I'll pay the extra to live by the ocean, I grew up in flyover country, 18 years was long enough...:D
 
Can't be easy to get Japanese pilots if they have to be proficient in English. Big-time language barrier.
 
Jim Logajan said:
Trainee pay of ¥650,000 seems to be about $104,000 US at current exchange rates.
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Wrong fx rate:

Should use
Japanese ¥650,000 = $6,416

...and not
Chinese RMB ¥650,000 = $104,218


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spdracer888 said:
Wrong fx rate:

Should use
Japanese ¥650,000 = $6,416

...and not
Chinese RMB ¥650,000 = $104,218


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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D'oh!

That's what I get for doing a simple copy-and-paste to the Google search field in my browser. It brought up a filled-in currency converter and I failed to look at the units.

I can only presume that a base pay is not to be construed as a salary, but stipend for being available for flying each year. (Otherwise the lack of pilots is trivially obvious.) Looking more closely, I see that the base pay seems to cover the first 70 hours of flying (650,000/70 = 9286 yen/hour. About $91/hour for the initial 3 month trainee period.)

* Base Pay : Refer to table shown below
* Flight Pay : 70 hours included
* Overtime Pay : JPY 15,000 per hour beyond 70 hours (taxable)
* Contract Completion Bonus (CCB : \2,000,000 upon completion of year 3
: \2,000,000 upon completion of year 5​

So the flight pay after the first 70 hours is JPY 15,000/hr =~ $148/hr. The question is how many hours a year will an A320 captain expect to fly with Vanilla Air?
 
Jim Logajan said:
D'oh!

That's what I get for doing a simple copy-and-paste to the Google search field in my browser. It brought up a filled-in currency converter and I failed to look at the units.

I can only presume that a base pay is not to be construed as a salary, but stipend for being available for flying each year. (Otherwise the lack of pilots is trivially obvious.) Looking more closely, I see that the base pay seems to cover the first 70 hours of flying (650,000/70 = 9286 yen/hour. About $91/hour for the initial 3 month trainee period.)

* Base Pay : Refer to table shown below
* Flight Pay : 70 hours included
* Overtime Pay : JPY 15,000 per hour beyond 70 hours (taxable)
* Contract Completion Bonus (CCB : \2,000,000 upon completion of year 3
: \2,000,000 upon completion of year 5​

So the flight pay after the first 70 hours is JPY 15,000/hr =~ $148/hr. The question is how many hours a year will an A320 captain expect to fly with Vanilla Air?
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Figure 800 to a 1000 per year.
 
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