Use of the word “stat” in controller glossary

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  1. WannFly

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    Does the word “stat” exists in controller glossary? Got a “turn right to 310 stat” today. Never got that before. I know what I means, wondering if there is a so called approved term for it? I have gotten break right and fly heading xxx before.
     
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    He probably mistook you for a Bonanza and thought you were a Doctor
     
  3. WannFly

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    Lol
     
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    Or nurse or some other medical type.
     
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    Nope. Immediately- do it now because you’re about to die. Expedite- Do it soon or I’m a gonna lose separation.
     
  6. WannFly

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    There was a caravan coming to eat me, think he did a go around, but it was sure funny to hear it.
     
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    Best answer - ever.

    To the OP, no, "stat" isn't in the ATC glossary.
     
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    Years back, I was on a mile final coming back from a student solo when I got an urgent "19U Break Right!" from the tower. Apparently the biz jet behind me was getting too close. Once I was out of the way, they worked me back into the pattern to land #2.

    My home 'drome is a training tower, but I hadn't yet learned to recognize the voices in the tower, so I don't know if it was trainee or not.
     
  9. Timbeck2

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    ALL towers and radar facilities are TRAINING facilities.
     
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    An emergency is no time for a controller to deviate from standard verbiage. It happened that you knew what "stat" meant to him, but you weren't required to. What if he'd said "tout de suite?" Would that have been ok?

    I've been given instructions with "now" at the end. It got my attention in a way that "stat" wouldn't have. But he should've said "immediate right turn to 310."
     
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    I didn't know that. I'd always had the impression that only some were so designated.
     
  12. Salty

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    Just as all cockpits are TRAINING facilities.
     
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    If you think about it...all towers (and radar facilities) are not the same. The ATC procedures (the way we talk to aircraft) are the same but not the airspace, runways, taxiways, agreements with adjacent facilities, etc. All controllers go through a basic ATC school where they are taught..well, the basics of air traffic. When they arrive at their new facility they have to learn everything about that facility and procedures. Until they satisfy the requirements for a rating in that facility, they are in training. I have been rated at 7 different towers and was a trainee at each one until I was rated. Some can take a day for an experienced controller, others can take up to a year; it depends upon the complexity of the facility.
     
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    Useful insight, thanks!
     
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    To add on, enroute can take several years to get fully certified. The amount of knowledge and memorization required to pass muster is considerable. Staffing issues further complicate this, but we aren't on stuckmic...
     
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    How many times have we heard that on POA? Some how somewhere a rumor started that certain ATC facilities are designated training facilities. When I find the guy who started that rumor...:mad:
     
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    and how many times have I tried to explain it? ;)
     
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    In my defense, I've only been on this board for a couple of months... :)
     
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    No worries Gary..it will happen again, and I will explain it again...and then it will happen again, and...
     
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    It’s not a big deal or anything. I just think it’s funny how many times I’ve read it here.

    For pilots, it would be like the equivalent of getting hired at a new company and maybe even flying the same aircraft. You’ve still got to go through their training program and learn the differences in policies, OpSpecs, GOM etc. before being let loose.

    On the controller side, it just takes a little longer because of the vast amount of SOPs, LOAs, airspace, etc. You have to have most of that stuff down cold without reference. Doesn’t matter if you’re right out of school or a previous qual coming from another facility. Everyone starts from square one.