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Simple question - can I log PIC time as a pilot of an Ultralight?
NickDBrennan said:Simple question - can I log PIC time as a pilot of an Ultralight?
Chapter 14, Verse 61.1(b)(1)(iv) says you must have the "identification" of the aircraft, and ultralights, not being registered, have no such "identification," so there's no way to make a valid log entry for ultralight time. However, one might still argue that 61.51(e)(1)(ii) does not require that the "aircraft" be an FAA-licensed one, and "aircraft" is defined in 1.1 merely as "a device that is used or intended to be used for flight in the air," which an ultralight is. But here's what the FAA says about time in non-certified aircraft:Greg Bockelman said:Simple answer is "no" but I can't quote chapter and verse on it. I'm sure Ron will.
True Part 103 ultralights are not likely to be registered as LSA's. Also, time in them before they are so registered would not be creditable. But if they are so registered, then they are no longer "ultralights" under the FAR's, as they are out of Part 103 and are certified aircraft with appropriate category/class ratings, and then, as you say, any future time in them is loggable and creditable.MSmith said:Now, if it becomes a Light Sport Aircraft instead of an ultralight (the owner gets an N-number), then it should be loggable as long as you are endorsed for the type (if it's a plane - you're good. If it's a powered parachute, you need an endorsement).
NickDBrennan said:Simple question - can I log PIC time as a pilot of an Ultralight?
NickDBrennan said:Simple question - can I log PIC time as a pilot of an Ultralight?
Dave Krall CFII said:Not without an N # as the others have said, which makes me wonder about say, Cessnas registered in Canada or foriegn countries as qualifying for loggable time per FARs ?
Henning said:No sweat as long as it's properly registered somewhere, it's loggable in furtherance....
Dave Krall CFII said:I'm trying to think like a lawyer though... "No N #"...
There isn't -- the reg just says "identification," not N-number. So non-US-reg is OK, too, as long as you have the official ID marks (letters or numbers) from the nation of registry.lancefisher said:I doubt there's anything in the regs about "N#'s".