Type ratings: Other aircraft specified by the Administrator?

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The rules for type ratings (Far 61.31) include

(a) Type ratings required. A person who acts as a pilot in command of any of the following aircraft must hold a type rating for that aircraft:
(1) Large aircraft (except lighter-than-air).
(2) Turbojet-powered airplanes.
(3) Other aircraft specified by the Administrator through aircraft type certificate procedures.

Are their any examples of the third item - a non-jet, less than 12,500lb max gross aircraft that requires a type rating?

 

[SoonerAviator]

For that matter, what constitutes "large aircraft"? Wingspan? Gross Weight?

 

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The definition of "large aircraft" is given in FAR 1.1. A large aircraft has a maximum certificated takeoff weight of more than 12,500 pounds.

 

[flyingron]

Large aircraft means more than 12,500 lbs. maximum certificated take off weight (from FAR 1.1).

 

[flyingron]

Piper Cheyenne is either turbojet powered nor "large".

 

[Henning]

The rules for type ratings (Far 61.31) include

Are their any examples of the third item - a non-jet, less than 12,500lb max gross aircraft that requires a type rating?

Most all the warbirds over 900hp do now I think.

 

[Sac Arrow]

This appears to be the list if that's what the OP is looking for.

 

[ronnieh]

Piper Cheyenne is either turbojet powered nor "large".

What?

 

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This appears to be the list if that's what the OP is looking for.

Interesting. Unfortunately, I don't know what most of them are. But it does list the Cheyenne: PA-42-720 (restricted) for whatever "restricted" means...
That seems to meet the under-12,500 and non-jet criteria.

 

[Sac Arrow]

Interesting. Unfortunately, I don't know what most of them are. But it does list the Cheyenne: PA-42-720 (restricted) for whatever "restricted" means...
That seems to meet the under-12,500 and non-jet criteria.

P38 is in there, and I saw a couple other warbirds.

 

[ronnieh]

Don't know about the list but, I have a few hundred hours in a Cheyenne IIIA and there was no requirement but a multi engine and of course IR for FL180 and above.
What confused me was the word "either", I guess he means neither.

 

[frfly172]

The antonov an2 single engine requires a type rating,due to weight. I flew a Cheyenne and never needed a type rating.

 

[kkoran]

Interesting. Unfortunately, I don't know what most of them are. But it does list the Cheyenne: PA-42-720 (restricted) for whatever "restricted" means...
That seems to meet the under-12,500 and non-jet criteria.

My guess is that it applies to one licensed in the restricted category with a max weight over 12,500 lbs.

 

[kkoran]

P38 is in there, and I saw a couple other warbirds.

Max weight of a P-38 is greater than 12,500 lbs.

 

[KSCessnaDriver]

The antonov an2 single engine requires a type rating,due to weight. I flew a Cheyenne and never needed a type rating.

No it doesn't, it has a MTOW of 12500.

 

[KSCessnaDriver]

The Zeppelin NT TCDS specifically mentions that a pilot must be qualified under 61.31(h).

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/855db2028f795ea8862574bb00551c38/$FILE/AS1CE.pdf

 

[warthog1984]

The rules for type ratings (Far 61.31) include

Are their any examples of the third item - a non-jet, less than 12,500lb max gross aircraft that requires a type rating?

Not quite a type rating, but the R-22 requires a model-specific endorsement.

 

[Henning]

Not quite a type rating, but the R-22 requires a model-specific endorsement.

Yeah, there are a couple others that have an SFAR for some specific training, the MU-2 has one as well; correct, not the same as a Type Rating, more like a Tailwheel endorsement.

 

[ronnieh]

Except, it is recurrent

 

[RotorAndWing]

My guess is that it applies to one licensed in the restricted category with a max weight over 12,500 lbs.

Piper built a few airframes for Customs with radar intercept equipment, my guess would be it applies to those airframes.