Trying to get the Family up!

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  1. Keyrenter

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    My 6 year old son is my normal co-pilot. We finally got mom to fly with us today! She was nervous, and hated the first half hour.

    My 3 year old was supposed to go, but mom didn’t allow it on her first flight. Mom was anxious for a while, but she got over it and had a blast!

    Grandma made the final call several nights ago, and kept our 3 yr old from going.

    I would like for her to be more comfortable bringing our youngest up, but one step at a time!








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  2. Bill Greenwood

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    I don't think a 3 year old will get much out of a flight. I hope you use a car seat, and don't have airsickness problems.
    If you want her to be less afraid and more comfortable, perhaps schedule an hour flight lesson with a CFI, preferably a lady CFI and let her get used to it. I hope your flying is reassuring and not the cause of any distress. Good luck.

    As the lord is my witness, I was standing at the simulator in the hangar at CAF headquarters at Dallas Executive and kids were waiting for a turn on the machine. They were not pilots but probably used to video games etc. The course was to set them up airborne perhaps 10 miles out and let them fly final approach AND LAND. A little girl started and knew what to do but was overcorrecting quite a bit. As the plane got closer, without having to be told, she got a better feel and LANDED THE PLANE, GOOD TOUCHDOWN, SOME TROUBLE WITH ROLL OUT. I asked her Mom her age and she was 7 1/2!. I don't think I could have done any better than that.
     
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    I guess I'm having pronoun trouble.

    It's clear you have a 6yo son, and a 3yo child of some sort.
    Is "mom" in this story your wife, or your mother?
    Is "Grandma" in this story your mother, your wife's mother, or your grandmother?
     
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    Shame on your for assigning gender roles upon strangers! This is 2019, when anyone can be anyone. So, uh, they might all be the same person. ;)

    (For the record, I was rather confused after reading the first post, too.)
     
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    Have you asked her to discuss her fears?

    My girlfriend asks me to take her flying, and did so again today. We went up for a while, had a great flight, and without me saying anything about the inversion, she was looking at the temps and noticed it, which got us into another good conversation about flying yet again.
     
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    :yeahthat: I’m a bit confused too, but whatever. I think you’re jumping the gun a little, because 3 years old is pretty young and I can just about guarantee that he wouldn’t get much out of the flight. I can tell you that I wouldn’t have ever considered taking my nephew flying when he was three, it’s just too young.
     
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    3 is pretty young for just flying around, traveling would be a different story. If I had kids they would fly with me from conception forward. ;) My first flight was in the front seat of a J-3 Cub when I was 5. I still haven't gotten over it. :)
     
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    Some people put 3 year old kids on skis and they survive, but I think most don't like it. They mostly are too young to control the skis, and easily get cold or if overdressed its awkward. If the parents can just wait another year or two, 90 % of kids who are 5 can learn and like it. And yes, I know Lindsey Vonn skied at 2 1/2 but there aren't many like her.
     
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    Both of my daughters were flying with me before they were a month old. They grew up flying, and thought it was normal.
     
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    Mine as well..... :)
     
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    What is the Lesson Learned in this? Put grandma in a home so she shuts her yap?
     
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    I began flying with my dad when I was two. I still (barely) have memories of waking up in the back of the Cessna 120 to blue taxiway lights at CPS.

    Dad was always proud when he could grease it in for a smooth landing and not wake me up.

    I cherish those memories as much as anything else.
     
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    No way is three too young... we fly all the time with my three year old, and it is great! Just look at the smile on that face! He was 2 1/2 at the time.
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    Thanks for the replies! I know the first post was a bit confusing. I am probably the first to start a thread after a few bourbons! Anyway, my wife and 6 year old now love flying, so we will work on getting our 3 year old up as well. It would be nice to use all 4 seats in the 172, as it won’t last long!


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    Yes, Dave yes, you can fly with a child 2 years old, you can fly with one 2 months old and he is smiling and seems to be having a good time. Who else is in the rear seat to help with his care if you encounter turbulence, and he gets sick or frightened, or he unbuckles his seat belt or drops his electric screen on the floor? I am kind of strong opinions about kids care and safety. It looks like you two might be smart enough to always go only if the weather is safe and smooth and so keep him smiling.
     
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    I doubt there is a minimum age for kids to go fly with parents. Our family flew together for many years while I and my siblings were quite young.
    For want of room, when I was but an infant, I rode on the hat shelf. while my elder sisters shared the back seat, and Mom in the co-pilots seat.
    I also learned that when about 5 years old, don't eat a snickers, and sit in the back of a rented 172, while Dad is getting his BFR. :0

    Good show on wife and 6yo son flying with you and having a blast. Grandma putting the calabash on the 3 yo flying is no fun at all. Had either of my Grandmas done that when I was 3 or younger, I would not have been able to see them until I was way older. (that was how we got to grandmas house)
     
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    Millennials... always thinking they discovered stuff. Hashtag good grief. (Should I livestream this to InstaBookChat?)

    Just bustin’ yer chopz! :D
     
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    3 hours in the plane with a small one is a lot less painful than 9 hours in the car, when you can’t even take them out of the car seat at all.
     
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    Actually, yesterday I took my 3 year old nephew for his very first flight. He did great and loved every minute of it. Tell grandma to lighten up a bit!
     
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    (Tell granny to mind her own beezwax?)
     
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    Oh yes. When the kids got older we trained them so that when we said “sterile cockpit” they stayed quiet. That only works at a certain age.
     
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    Plus, it's illegal in most states to drive with a noise-cancelling headset on.

    The advantages of driving are that ears don't pop as often or severely even if you drive through the mountains, and you can pull over almost anywhere with only a few seconds' or at most a few minutes' notice if you need to. But as far as I can tell, that's it and you do still have to get back in the car and drive the rest of those 9 hours.
     
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    Yes, being able to stop at any moment is a big plus, however, say you have to pee. You still have to find a rest stop, at least us ladies do.:)