Top 3 Biggest Pain Points

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  1. pit2atx

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    For all those who have gone through fight training, what would you say is your top 3 biggest pain points in learning to fly (outside of $$ :)) ? For example: Landings, Navigation, ATC Communication, or.. multi-tasking all combined!!
     
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  2. Salty

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    For me it was the radio. Everything else was easy.
     
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    Biggest pain was paying. After that it was pretty easy compared to say a root canal or tax audit.
     
  5. eman1200

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    first rule about fight training is.............
     
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    None. Ok, weather.
     
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    Nose, ribs, teeth.

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    landings - until one day it clicked
    constant back pressure application on landing - probably from fear of the ground - still an issue
    understanding the wx images - don't think this 'pain' will ever go away
     
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    Landings and budgeting
     
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    Been so long ago,can’t remember. Probably long solo cross country,using ADF and VORs.
     
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  13. injb

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    I'm still early in my flight training, but getting a medical certificate has been by far the biggest pain point so far.
     
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    #1 VOR navigation while under the hood. Still a total helmet fire.
    #2 judging heights/sink rates on engine outs. Somehow my sink rate was also light and I would end up way too high on the approach.
    #3 getting up earlier to defrost the airplane so I could fly early.
     
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    1) landings (judging height/when to flare mainly)
    2) judging the alignment of longitudinal axis, see #1
    3̶)̶ ̶m̶u̶l̶t̶i̶t̶a̶s̶k̶i̶n̶g̶,̶ ̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶m̶e̶a̶n̶d̶e̶r̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶s̶i̶d̶e̶ ̶a̶l̶t̶i̶t̶u̶d̶e̶/̶h̶e̶a̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ ̶t̶i̶m̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶p̶o̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶A̶T̶C̶
    3) studying for and worrying about the check ride several times after weather postponements


    You might want to edit your subject line, I ignored this post for several days assuming it was about getting old or something. I didn't notice the sub-forum because I usually use 'recents' view. Thread tools, edit title.
     
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    That's a cool trick considering the OP is only about 4 hours old. You a time traveler?
     
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    I was sure AZ's acro training would have been mentioned
     
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    Landings and VOR nav for me.
     
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    -S turns across a road (my repeatability sucked)
    -crosswind landings (when it clicked 3 lessons later, it clicked)
    -repetitive pattern work (just wanted to escape the pattern and fly off into the great beyond and explore)
     
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    Ok I guess it just seemed like days
     
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    1. Weather
    2. Weather
    3. Weather
     
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    Trying to get your pants back in before landing
     
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    Steep turns

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    Early on 3 challenges were;
    Under using rudder in a free castoring nose wheel.
    I really hated turbulence early on. (Still do but not as bad)
    Knew absolutely nothing so like drinking from a fire hose.
     
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    One thing for me, when I first started lessons, while taxiing I kept looking for the outside rear view mirrors. Probably took 15-20 hours to stop looking.
     
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    In or back on? Mile high club I take it? Solo? :D
     
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    Back on after your first solo. Maybe I did it wrong....
     
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    1. Landings for sure
    2. Appropriate amount of rudder while at speed on the runway either at take off or landing.
    3. Dealing with turbulence


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    In order of difficulty,

    1) Engine failure landings
    2) Performance landings
    3) Landings

    You might notice that there is a common term in all three...
     
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    Wait. You did your first solo and then took your pants off? What happened to just cutting the back of your shirt? I'm old so maybe that's a new tradition y'all have? o_O
     
  34. eman1200

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    by 'pants' you mean overalls, right? YEEEEEHAAAWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwww
     
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    Once in a while I still try to hit the turn signal before I turn crosswind on takeoff. Never seems to happen any other time for some reason.
     
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    Taxiing was a pain at first. The yellow line down the middle of the taxi way made me feel like I needed to pick a lane. :D
    Radio communications. (The listening part, as in, "Is what is being said over the radio whilst in the air relevant to me and how so?")
    Crosswind landings (Haven't had to do one yet, and already know I'm not going to like it.)
     
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    Crosswind landings can be a blast! I think once you've been exposed to them and become comfortable you'll enjoy the challenge. Fun to touch down on one main.
     
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    I will add that crosswind landings scared me as I had a bad experience with one early on in my training. But it is nice when you transition from being scared to having the attitude of "okay crosswind...I'm going to win this one."
     
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    I'll endeavor to be open-minded, then. In any case, crosswinds happen, and I'm going to have to just suck it up and learn them.. Or invent a device that changes the wind direction from the plane with the simple rotation of a knob. You know, something that picks up the whole airport runway and rotates it to a more suitable position relative to the wind. :D
     
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