Thoughts on flying with Lead Acid Battery (Portable Jump Start)

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  1. Somedudeintn

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    My current thinking is not to do this, but I’m curious what everyone thinks about it and if there are any regs. I’ve got a portable jump starter that has a 12V 17Ah lead acid battery.

    I was thinking it would be nice to have this and an inverter at OSH for a few of my electronics that need AC power. Mostly camera battery charger and laptop. (For offloading Photos).
     
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    I run a solar panel whenever I am at OSH to charge a spare power pack for cell phones and such. There's 110v plug ins at the charge stations and I usually just do a little work in my lawn chair with the laptop plugged in.

    I wouldn't be hauling any lead acid batteries inside my plane unless they were contained in a battery box that would ensure they cannot leak if they spill.
     
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    Ok. I just looked and found a usb charger for my camera batteries which I’m excited about. I’ve already got a small solar panel and 2 small power packs so I should be good there.

    I’ll plan on hitting up one of the charge stations if I need it but I’m guessing the laptop battery may even last all week if I’m just turning it on to transfer photos.
     
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    Osh has charging stations as well, just head to the roaring Honda generators on the walkways between the booths. Of course, you are tied to the station for a while, but in a pinch.
    I have a 1600mah Crave TravelPro which can fully charge an ipad and an iphone before it needs recharging. Top-ups consume considerably less. I can carry it in a pocket. In view of its age, I bet you could now find something even smaller with better capacity.
     
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    Part 91, who cares.??

    As GRG55 said, put it in a leak free battery container. Or just get a gel cell battery.

    I like the solar idea better.
     
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    This thing is tiny, can jump my plane or truck, will charge a camera or iphone a few times, and doubles as a flashlight.

    https://no.co/gb40
     
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    Yeah, plenty of other brands as well. The lithium jump packs are amazing. Light and strong to jump start your plane if you left the master on. I used it in the winter after I flossed my engine and the battery was getting weak from the repeated starts cranking over during the failed starts. I jumped it and let it run and warm up for 5 minutes, then shut down, unhooked the pack and started back up with a warm engine and charged battery.

    Plus mine has a 12v cig lighter output for accessories and USB ports. I keep one in each car and already used it to start my wife’s car at the grocery store when she waited in the lot with her lights and radio on.
     
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    Except for everyone's concern for the super-explody Lithium battery pack, this is my test rig for Solar Operations. I have a bigger battery now, and yes the idea is to take it on the plane and work very very remotely from time to time. The panel does a fine job of keeping things running without draining the battery in full sun.

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    Is that a goal zero Sherpa 50 you were charging?

    Those look nice although the nomad panels seems a bit pricy. Your custom solution looks pretty good. Do you have any details on the solar panels you have there?
     
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    That's a Sherpa 100. I think it's the official Goal Zero MC4 cable, adapted to Power Pole for the meter(since the Sherpa has limited indications) and then back to MC4 for the panel. Although a Goal Zero Power Pole adapter would have probably been fine.

    I've since gotten a Nomad 28 for the Sherpa when I want to be portable and a Suaoki 'G500' for when I want all the power.

    That particular panel is a MOOHOO(from Amazon) 100W folding and slightly bendable panel. I seem to recall it does 70W or so without issue, but I'm not home to check it, it's an MC4 output with no on-board charge controller. Obviously way cheaper per watt than the Goal Zero panels.
     
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    So, I finally got home and pulled the panel out and put it out in the Oregon 'Sun' and it's doing 76W into the Suaoki G500, I've aimed it slightly... I consider that a pretty good number for the price.