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Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by Tom-D, Nov 16, 2020.
but they are still grunting bomb the same way and Walking FOD
That always surprises me. In the private sector they would have some type of mechanical lift to help avoid common lifting injuries or accidental drops. Even in our ambulance service we now have electronic cots and lifting systems being built into the ambulance so medics no longer have to lift the cot into the box.
They've had mechanical lifts and hoists for years. In the early 1980s I was designing ordnance handling equipment for the Navy. They had hydraulic lifts, engine powered hoists (powered by converted chainsaw engines, now they're electric), and an array of other things. But when things get hot and heavy, all the fancy equipment got ignored, quicker to grab several other guys than to set up the bomb hoist and associated adapters.
But it was fun to catch a brief glimpse of some equipment I designed still in use in that video.
I was on destroyers so the first little bit showing a CIWS being loaded with live rounds while the dummy rounds come out is familiar, but the rest I just watched from afar.
Watching approaches when we were on station as plane guard was always fun.
I'm still in awe at the ordeies, 4 guys grunt a 1000# pounder.
Someone needs to teach the text reader to put the proper em-FA-sis on the correct sy-LAH-ble.
Has it really been that many number of years since I commissioned CVN-74?
Funny can you think Coral Sea CVA 34 / 61 /62
Those fancy bomb hoists took up too much space on the flight deck. I was the AT1 in VAQ-132 avionics on two Saratoga deployments. We were in a constant battle with flight deck control over our gear. You just don't "grunt" jammer pods. So, we were constantly shuffling our gear around the deck to appease the yellow shirts. Flight deck politics is brutal. The ordies don't have time for that crap. The VAQ AT shop has no choice.
Small world! I was an AT2 and AT1 in VAQ-132 also. We were on the George Washington. The hoists were a must for the pods. You are correct!
@wilkersk What years were you there? 2002-2004 for me. I did a split tour as AIMD SeaOpDet prior to going to 132. I took over the shop the day I got frocked to First right during the middle of the deployment.
Coral Sea was CV-43, not 34.
All because the Pods weren't grunted by Ordies, they were handled by Tweets.
But really you couldn't get a hand hold until they were disassembled.
IYAOYAS!!! (smashes forehead against the bulkhead)
It took me a minute, I had to look it up
I was in 132 from '92 to '95. The first year and half, I was in the shop. Wound up as "acting chief" for AVARM when our division chief got sent home early. Then, when we got back, they asked me to be the CCC. I really wanted to go back to the shop. But, the CCC job helped me make Chief, so it worked out in the end.
Any time you wanna show us how its done Tom.....
Yeah... I don't recall the numbers, but we (support equipment at Lakehurst) were required to provide lifting equipment for anything over some weight. I was working on the AV-8 project at one point, we had to lift something only about 4" from the cart to the rack. Apparently OSHA got involved and said it was too heavy to use the manual lifting bars. The Marines said they had no intention of using it, but understood that we had to supply it, so please supply a lifting system that used the existing cradles, which had sockets for the old manual lifting bars, "for emergency use only" of course... or, presumably, whenever the safety officer wasn't watching.
Some of those guys take that stuff pretty seriously. Even as far as getting IYAOYAS tattoos.
Being a black-shoe twidget with gear on the flight deck (CAINS/SINS) I got to experience both worlds.
BTDT,, 5 cruises, (3 as VAW & 2 as VAQ) I have humped hard backs loaded transmitters, we all worked as a team.
1981 seemed so long ago.
I'd imagine when using a piece of equipment, getting things lined up is that much more critical. If the lifting dolly is off by 1/4 inch it probably won't mount and have to be repositioned. When lifting with man power its easy to shift.
In 81, I was an AT2, flying as a SAR/VERTREP crew chief on H-46s. Broke my heart with they cut some of the "non-AW" flying billets and sent me to VAQ squadron.
17 years to get into service and nearly $20 billion.....military industrial complex is at in full force on this jobs project
Which translates to "if you ARE O, then you're chit"
The AF uses A instead of O and are constituted in two groups, BB stackers and muzzle ****ers.
I was neither.
I was in a customer's hangar when I spotted a chromed tail hook, I couldn't help myself to look it read, "Centurion" then I saw it was in Vigilante.