The need for speed

Apache123

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You guys won't believe it! I had a ground speed of 162kts in the Apache today!

I had a 30ish knot tailwind, but hey who's counting.

After she made her landing I had to wait for the aluminum to cool, at speeds that crazy this thing seemed to get red hot. (Must have been the pressure shock layer).

:rofl:
 
Does fuel drip from the tanks when it sits still on the tarmac?
 
You are really in some serious need of tuning those engines ---
if you expect to beat my 200+ G/S in the R182. (and on ONE engine, yet!)

ok, so a 55kt tailwind helps. (but it pays back for my trip in the 150 during a 65kt Headwind and all the ripples I could count in the water bodies underneath me, especially during the brief backward interludes)


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I have two hobbies where i'm always having a headwind. Cycling and Flying.. I never win. Sounds like a fun flight! I thought I heard a sonic boom!
 
Funny how there is always a headwind regardless of the direction you ride.
 
My record in level flight stands at 212kts over the ground with a chalk to chalk average of 167.

The way I was eating up miles makes me wish I had a plane that was actually that fast :lol:
 
One of my first trips in the 421 was Atlanta to Houston, going out was about 20 knots on the nose. Coming home 4 days later I was showing 250 knots GS in the climb!! Ended up at 17,000 ft with a 270 GS for a short time. :yes: Then a turn to the Northeast dropped me back to 250. :mad2: Pretty good speed for an old B model 421. :D
 
I'm guessing many have heard this one before, but for those that haven't I believe it's relevant to this thread's title (?)...not trying to hijack the thread. Was supposedly in a book by a Blackbird pilot.

The predominant radio chatter was from Los Angeles Center, far below us, controlling daily traffic in their sector. While they had us on their scope (albeit briefly), we were in uncontrolled airspace and normally would not talk to them unless we needed to descend into their airspace.
We listened as the shaky voice of a lone Cessna pilot asked Center for a readout of his ground speed.
Center replied: "November Charlie 175, I'm showing you at ninety knots on the ground."
Now the thing to understand about Center controllers, was that whether they were talking to a rookie pilot in a Cessna, or to Air Force One, they always spoke in the exact same, calm, deep, professional, tone that made one feel important. I referred to it as the "HoustonCenterVoice." I have always felt that after years of seeing documentaries on this country's space program and listening to the calm and distinct voice of the HoustonCenterControllers, that all other controllers since then wanted to sound like that... and that they basically did. And it didn't matter what sector of the country we would be flying in, it always seemed like the same guy was talking. Over the years that tone of voice had become somewhat of a comforting sound to pilots everywhere.

Just moments after the Cessna's inquiry, a Twin Beech piped up on frequency, in a rather superior tone, asking for his ground speed.
"Ah, Twin Beach: I have you at one hundred and twenty-five knots of ground speed."
Boy, I thought, the Beechcraft really must think he is dazzling his Cessna brethren.

Then out of the blue, a Navy F-18 pilot out of NAS Lemoore came up on frequency. You knew right away it was a Navy jock because he sounded very cool on the radios.
"Center, Dusty 52 ground speed check."
Before Center could reply, I'm thinking to myself, hey, Dusty 52 has a ground speed indicator in that million dollar cockpit, so why is he asking Center for a readout? Then I got it -- ol' Dusty here is making sure that every bug smasher from Mount Whitney to the Mojave knows what true speed is. He's the fastest dude in the valley today, and he just wants everyone to know how much fun he is having in his new Hornet.

And the reply, always with that same, calm, voice, with more distinct alliteration than emotion:
"Dusty 52, Center, we have you at 620 on the ground."

And I thought to myself, is this a ripe situation, or what? As my hand instinctively reached for the mic button, I had to remind myself that Walt was in control of the radios. Still, I thought, it must be done -- in mere seconds we'll be out of the sector and the opportunity will be lost. That Hornet must die, and die now.

I was torn. Somewhere, 13 miles above Arizona, there was a pilot screaming inside his space helmet. Then, I heard it. The click of the mic button from the back seat. Walter spoke:
"Los Angeles Center, Aspen 20, can you give us a ground speed check?"
There was no hesitation, and the reply came as if was an everyday request:
"Aspen 20, I show you at one thousand eight hundred and forty-two knots, across the ground."

I think it was the forty-two knots that I liked the best, so accurate and proud was Center to deliver that information without hesitation, and you just knew he was smiling.

It all had lasted for just moments, but in that short, memorable sprint across the southwest, the Navy had been flamed, all mortal airplanes on freq were forced to bow before the King of Speed. A fine day's work......:yes:
 
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I was torn. Somewhere, 13 miles above Arizona, there was a pilot screaming inside his space helmet. Then, I heard it. The click of the mic button from the back seat. Walter spoke:
"Los Angeles Center, Aspen 20, can you give us a ground speed check?"
There was no hesitation, and the reply came as if was an everyday request:
"Aspen 20, I show you at one thousand eight hundred and forty-two knots, across the ground."

I think this is a variation on the Sled Driver story (SR-71). One of the best stories in aviation imo :yes:
 
took the pawnee home to kansas a few days ago. wesbound in the wintertime with no heater and the booms hanging in the wind is no fun. I finally found an altitude where the winds weren't quite so bad and groundspeed broke 80. That would be ok in an aeronca but it's aggravating with 260HP
 
My record in level flight stands at 212kts over the ground with a chalk to chalk average of 167.

The way I was eating up miles makes me wish I had a plane that was actually that fast :lol:

My record in the Mooney is 245 knots. At that speed and 12gph, I was getting better mileage than I'd have gotten in the Jeep on the ground, and going 5 times faster! :D
 
At the OTHER end of the spectrum, I recall trying to beat back to the cutter I was operating off into a gusty wind averaging 80kt . (This in a HH52 which would max out at 95 downhill with a tailwind). We were knocking down a solid 10 knots made good, and had to have the cutter ( CGC Rush ) come and get us before we ran out of fuel!!!
 
My record in the Mooney is 245 knots. At that speed and 12gph, I was getting better mileage than I'd have gotten in the Jeep on the ground, and going 5 times faster! :D

Similar mileage to me, I was under 10ghp, ain't much air for burning fuel at 13.5 when you don't have a turbo
 
I was going about 215kt. but I was losing tailwind as I had to descend under the MSP Bravo shelf. I had just changed course a little bit to skirt around FCM Class D. TAS was about 150kt and the JPI was reading 9.5gph. Me = happy. :D

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