"The Irishman" and aviation

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  1. olasek

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    Anyone has seen "The Irishman" already? The latest Martin Scorsese Netflix movie about the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa, the Teamsters, etc.

    There is a GA sequence in this movie, starts at about 2:34:XX, it features some twin engine airplane, could not readily recognize if it was Piper, Beech or Cessna (please chime in if you know make/model), anyhow the airplane has a glass cockpit, some sort of Garmin panel upgrade, I ask which airplane flying in 1975 had this sort of panel?? :D:cool: The airplane is definitely from the era but the panel is not. The airplane in the movie departs Port Clinton and flies to Detroit but is a very short sequence. I guess if you shoot a miserly 20-sec long sequence featuring an airplane you probably don't bother to hire an aircraft consultant.
     
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    The Gramin panel is probably a cheap Chinese knockoff.
     
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    Going to watch it tonight.. thanks for the warning.
     
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    I *think* it was a Cessna 414.

    Personally, I think the pilot was amazing. When he returned to Port Clinton, he was able to park in the EXACT location he had started at when he originally picked up his passenger. Props even stopped at the same position. :)

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    Looked like a GTN750 and maybe a G5? About an hour too long, but good movie
     
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    I share the sentiment. The WSJ review called it a 'masterpiece', I think it is a stretch.
     
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    Big name director. Big name actors. ****ty tech editor. Come on guys.
     
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    That's military level precision! I wouldn't be surprised he was a Blue at one time. ;)
     
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    funny post... my son and I watched the movie last eve on netflix and I pointed out to him that the avionics were "older" but def newer than the period. Nothing better than a Scorsese movie, but this one was meh...
     
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    So what would be the role of a good tech editor? Spot such errors and delete the footage? Or find better aircraft?
     
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    To the unwashed masses, a modern GA glass panel would appear too futuristic for credibility even in the present day. I haven't seen the movie, so I don't know if it's a theme, but thinking out loud here - maybe the flub was intentional and satiric?
     
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    Doubt it. The glass was turned off and the plane was stationary. Mostly round dials visible. Only on for 10 or 15 seconds. I might not have noticed it unless prompted by the OP's post.
     
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    In the interview on the "Bonus Disc" of the DVD of The Aviator, director Scorsese said he knew nothing about aviation before making that picture.

    No kidding? :rolleyes:
     
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    The aircraft was a Cessna 421C. Does no one know how to look up a registration number anymore? N212RV.

    This is the cockpit of a same model, but not 212RV, garmin equipment.
     

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    Or edit in an appropriate era panel.
     
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    That's true, if they can edit-in buildings they could certainly edit-in one square foot of a panel.
     
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    Heh. The opposite thing happened at our studios when they were filming the radio station scenes with John Travolta for the movie "Trading Paint." We're all digital, all audio-over-IP (AoIP if you're hip) Wheatstone equipment with LED metering. The director thought that was too fancy-looking, so we pulled an older console out of storage, one that had old-fashioned "steam gauge" swingy-pointy meters on it.

    As an aside, I was hoping to get a ride from Travolta in his Falcon, but it was not to be ... :(

    Although I have to say, both Travolta and Barry Corbin were two of the nicest people I've ever met.

    As for why the Irishman had glass displays instead of steam, no idea. Watching a movie being made was an eye-opening experience for me, and a surprising number of decisions are made right there, on the spot, while filming. I suspect that either (a), they just plain didn't care about it for one short scene, or (b), they figured the average movie goer, who has only seen the glass displays in the airliners that he/she flies, would have expected that in a plane in 1963. :dunno:
     
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    If you simply google the tail number, you will find several websites with the registration information, including mine. What specifically were you looking for?
     
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    There was a question about the type. I did google the number and found the registration, which identified the type.
     
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    Also of note, the scene at the departing airport was filmed at Republic, KFRG, Farmingdale, Long Island.
     
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    I wondered where that was filmed. I knew for sure it wasn’t the storyline airport- Port Clinton KPCW.
     
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    No clue on the panel; the movie is too long, though well written and acted; could have been "tighter".
     
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    Not to heckle Marty even more, but this plane was built 4 years after that flight. Just sayin...
     
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    Funny. We watched that scene last night and I immediately pointed out the anachronism to my wife. I reminded her that my plane was a 1976 model year (manufactured in 1975) and that that's what the panel would have looked like. That made her laugh.
     
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