And was only caught by the vin of the rear axle from the van he rented.
Thanks a lot, Ukraine
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Canada, UK, France, Germany, and Russia have a combined 4,899 public use airports.
USA has 15,873. So we've got it pretty good.
The few bad apples of bad PR really do more harm for the hobby than the ones griping about noise, lead, or being a danger.
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Getting back to commercial drones used for nefarious purposes, I suspect the main driver for drone registration in the US is that, and not airspace protection. When some ****at governor of a commie state gets whacked by a shotgun mounted on a quad copter, the FBI DHS wants to know who owns it.
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Bad idea. Registration is just a prelude to confiscation.
When drones are outlawed, only outlaws will have drones.
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Thank you. My point exactly.
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I *kind* of agree, but how many cars are being confiscated these days? Airplanes? There are plenty of examples that make the fear seem a bit silly.
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It's not just confiscation that is the issue. There is a whole slew of rights at play, including privacy.
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And that's the bigger deal for me. Even if things aren't being confiscated. A person should own their own property and have the right to defend themselves.
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When the many are punished for the crimes of the few, there is tyranny.
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I live in one of those commie states and I remember when my 2 guns, 3 drones and airplane were confisca... Oh wait, no. That never happened.
It turns out the government, as much as I hate them sometimes, is not really in the business of taking your stuff.
... Unless it's your money, which is really the only thing they care about in the end.
It turns out the government, as much as I hate them sometimes, is not really in the business of taking your stuff.
... Unless it's your money, which is really the only thing they care about in the end.
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No, but federal buildings look A LOT different from how they looked in 1994.
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A country is fighting against our enemy, and someone is worried about how that might confuse the TSA? I can't wrap my head around how someone could hold a pilot's license and be able to reach that conclusion. The only take away I have from that clip is the embarrassment that we don't have the courage to send them B-1's.
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Regardless of which sides are chosen in the current war (which is also a good way to get the thread locked), I think it is naive to think DHS isn't already planning to expand into and address what will inevitably occur by drone at some point here in the US.
Example:
AIRPORT & AVIATION SECURITY / INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY / LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY
www.hstoday.us
Example:
AIRPORT & AVIATION SECURITY / INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY / LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY
National Action Plan Seeks New Powers to Protect Against the Drone Threat
National Action Plan Seeks New Powers to Protect Against the Drone Threat - HS Today
The Plan will set ground rules for the expanding uses of UAS and improve defenses against the exploitation of the technology for inappropriate or dangerous purposes.
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EdFred
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So you're a proponent of civil asset forfeiture.
Noted.
(All of those things can be found in countries run by dictators, btw)
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I had to show an additional photo ID to rent a truck after 9/11. It was just luck that I had a CAP membership card with me (and the the guy at the rental office happened to also be a CAP member).
Happens here all the time, too. Prior to conviction, no less. And not just for drug-related crimes.
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The facts on the Ukrainian "drone" as Forbes sees it:
www.forbes.com
Ukraine’s New Factory-Smashing Drone Is A $90,000 Sport Plane With A Robot At The Controls
To pull off one of its deepest strikes ever targeting Russian industries, the Ukrainians took a local ultralight sport plane & swapped its manned controls for a robot.
www.forbes.com
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Accept as you all know the saying, “once the camel’s nose is under the tent….”
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The facts on the Ukrainian "drone" as Forbes sees it:
Ukraine’s New Factory-Smashing Drone Is A $90,000 Sport Plane With A Robot At The Controls
To pull off one of its deepest strikes ever targeting Russian industries, the Ukrainians took a local ultralight sport plane & swapped its manned controls for a robot.
Xwing and U.S. Air Force demonstrate fully autonomous cargo aircraft - The Robot Report
A program by the US Air Force and Xwing demonstrated fixed wing cargo carrying capability using a modified Cessna 208B Grand Caravan.
www.therobotreport.com
Also google Reliable Robotics.
RyanShort1
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I think you meant “except” - and that’s been true as long as anyone typing on this forum has been alive and longer. Best to mitigate what you cannot prevent.
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"the event" ?! Has open discussion of middle-eastern terrorists flying planes into skyscrapers on 9/11/2001 become something not to be spoken aloud like the N-word, "gypped", or selecting an incorrect pronoun contrary to someone's preference?
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Wait, so we have to pretend that because we're not in it everything is equal? Along the lines of, Pol Pot, Franco, were just misunderstood, and there's no wrong answer?
I actually listened to an aviation safety seminar where the instructor started off with "remember, there are no wrong answers." Yes, there are! In art class, perhaps not. But in most areas of life there are lots of wrong answers, and pretending there aren't isn't a good plan. Chicken tartare? Yeah, that would be a wrong answer.
We didn't start out with a document that said "We hold these truths to be ambiguous".
As to the OP, this doesn't go back to Ukraine, it goes back to the Battle of Leyte Gulf, if not earlier. It's not either a secret or new technology.
We spend way too much time worrying about things these days.
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Cheaper options out there for Ukraine. Russia has thousands of them. The future of aerial warfare is changing rapidly.