Test Question: Remote Indicating Compass

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Gleim is doing a poor job of explaining it or how it works.

Where can I get more information on this instrument?

A video on youtube explaining / demoing it would be great but I can't find one.

Thanks.
 
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Re: Remote Indicating Compass

For reference:

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The quality of the photos of this thing tell me I will never see one in real life.
 
There is going to be a handful of things you may be required to study on for the IR written that will have you shaking your head. They seem to think we are still flying back in the stone age.
 
There is going to be a handful of things you may be required to study on for the IR written that will have you shaking your head. They seem to think we are still flying back in the stone age.

I know. PPL was a little bit that way.

I have a lot of down time so I have opted to go the "really learn it" route versus memorize the test questions but some of this rare stuff is harder to research.

The way Gleim explained it, I was under the impression that this was a 3rd instrument that worked in coordination w/ a HI and compass. I get now that it is a HI. (or was an HI)
 
Wouldn't a KCS 55A HSI system, Sandel EHSI, or G1000 also be considered a remote indicating compass due to the flux gate?

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Hardly Stone Age.
 
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Wouldn't a KCS 55A HSI system, Sandel EHSI, or G1000 also be considered a remote indicating compass due to the flux gate?

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sn3380-rmi.gif



Hardly Stone Age.

Yes, but the written test questions focus on adjusting the thing which is not applicable to the glass panels (I'm not sure about each of the instruments you cite above though.
 
For these questions, I just got busy memorizing the answers versus trying to understand it.

It's very rare on the smaller aircraft to ever see one, so I didn't burn too many processing cycles learning how it works or how to use it.

But if it helps, some Google Fu found these:

http://www.flightlearnings.com/2010/10/02/heading-indicators-part-four-remote-indicating-compass/

http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/remote-indicating-compass.46381/

http://www.pilotoutlook.com/instrument_flying/remote_indicating_compass
 
The only remote compasses I know of use a sensor box in the wing to avoid sticking a whiskey compass in the panel where we all know it won't work well. Or in most Cubs, not at all. The remote sensor sends the info to a panel display. It's just a compass. Somebody must have thought it would be a good idea to have a compass actually work. They're heavy and everybody I know removed them long ago. We still have compasses but we all use GPS as the primary.
 
Wouldn't a KCS 55A HSI system, Sandel EHSI, or G1000 also be considered a remote indicating compass due to the flux gate?

KI-525A_SlavedFAQ.jpg


sn3380-rmi.gif



Hardly Stone Age.


Um excuse me sir, This is a flight exam.
We only deal in greyscale images with a bit of motion blur.

While I appreciate that the bottom instrument is Christian, that image is far to legible to be real. Please take your full color space age graphics back to the future.
 
Yes, but the written test questions focus on adjusting the thing which is not applicable to the glass panels (I'm not sure about each of the instruments you cite above though.

Yes, both the instruments above need the slaving unit. It is part of the King KCS-55A system..........both the KI-525 and Sandel 3308 need the "KA-51B Slaving unit /compensator"" shown in the FAA test.

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http://www.sea-avionics.com/lc/cart.php?target=productDetails&model=KCS55A&substring=kcs55a
 
Hardly Stone Age.

You still fly something with moving parts behind the glass?? :yikes: Sheesh.. Better get with it old man. :D

I believe James331 is correct. My point may not apply here, but certainly will apply. Study on!
 
We have one of these, we've never had to take it out of slave mode.

About the only time it is needed is a quick turn. It takes a few minutes for the gyro to spool down. If it is started up before it has completed it's shutdown, the gyro can go a little berserk.

They are usually happy with a normal shutdown-startup.
 
Re: Remote Indicating Compass

For reference:

4-40b1.jpg


The quality of the photos of this thing tell me I will never see one in real life.

Remember, it's important that you know which way to slew for any corrections. If you slew it the wrong way, you will die before you go all the way back around to where you want to be, or before you can stop and slew it back the other direction. That is why there is an inordinate amount of questions on which way to slew it on the FAA written test.

http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1376761&postcount=34
 
Re: Remote Indicating Compass

Remember, it's important that you know which way to slew for any corrections. If you slew it the wrong way, you will die before you go all the way back around to where you want to be, or before you can stop and slew it back the other direction. That is why there is an inordinate amount of questions on which way to slew it on the FAA written test.

http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1376761&postcount=34

No. If I slew it the wrong way then I will live because it means I have a time machine and I will come back here before the plane crashes :)
 
But really, the main things you need to remember about these is which turn selection to chose to fix the error stated in the written exam question, CW or CCW.

Getting helically wrapped around the axis with an inclined plane over anything else here is just gonna get you, well.....
 
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