Super Hornets for the Blues

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    I thought they didn't want the super hornet because of the extra weight?
     
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    The funds are for design and development of an engineering change *proposal*, not manufacturing and not a rework-ready airframe or avionics change. Fielding a show-ready E and an E-ready show from essentially scratch will take a bit longer than ~1.5 years. Seems like an appropriate change and the right time for it all the same.

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    How much of an engineering change is there be between a C and E Hornet?
     
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    The ECP and airframe changes from A to Blues-A involved the fuel system and (later) the longitudinal preload spring that came about while testing the proposed routine. Developing and validating the routine with these changes incorporated adds even more time. Two airplanes and one pilot were lost during transition to the A (one at Pax and one assigned to the Blues at El Centro IIRC) and there is still some corporate memory so I'm sure it will be conservative.

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    Yes, changes from the A to a Blues A. My question is, would there be any real differences converting an E vs an A from an engineering standpoint?
     
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    Different airframe, different engines, different avionics and software so I'd say yes. Call it informed speculation. Apparently the contracts folks though it was with ~$12M of design and development by you know how that goes...:)

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    12 million to Boeing buys what? 1 week of an engineer's time? (I'm only laughing a little bit...)
     
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    And only 120 days to produce a Mustang.

    Stick a spring on the stick, remove the gun and replace with smoke. Update the W&B. Done.:D
     
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    "Look, all we're gonna do is put a hook on a Hawk. What's so hard about that?" o_O

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    I don't get the reference...
     
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    I hear some of the younger guys would work for as little as $10M a week but we tried to tell them they're demeaning the profession and disrespectful to those of us who struggled to get where we are today. :rolleyes:

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    Personal experience with another 'easy mod' program. :eek:

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    He's referring to the T-45. There's far more than putting a hook on it to make a naval aircraft. Gotta beef up the landing gear as well. :D
     
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    Too bad. Made some of us (me) LOL, as the kids say these days.
     
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    It's not what guys charge, it's what Boeing charges...
     
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    Necroooooooo!
     
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    Does anyone know if the preload spring is always "engaged"? Or can they disengage it for transiting between airshows?
     
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    Completely within POA bylaws if said necro is posted by the OP.
     
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    I’m just kidding around
     
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    It can be disengaged.

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    If that’s all you’re going to pay your folks, I’m going to have an easy time recruiting them for Lockheed.
     
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