Stemme S10-V Question

[AggieMike88]

Browsing for sale ads, I came across this aircraft: 1995 Stemme S10-V. It appears to be a training aircraft for the USAF Academy.

The configuration has me calling it a motor glider.

Since it has retractable gear, does that mean that the pilot would require the "complex gear" endorsement?

Anyone here ever operate one? Looks interesting.

 

[brcase]

As I recall it does not have a controllable pitch propeller so it does not qualify as complex.

2nd here is the definition of complex....
Complex airplane means an airplane that has a retractable landing gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller,....

So it also has to be an Airplane to be complex, Glider doesn't count.

Now that being said practically speaking the Stemme S10-V is a very complex airplane having a similar workload to a light twin, But it doesn't meet the legal definition of a complex airplane.

Brian
CFIIG/ASEL

 

[l8evator]

MIke,

Don't worry about the paper work, just buy it. I think you'll need a glider rating plus a powered glider endorsement (but no medical certificate). You can get those in a couple days if you don't already have them. Everyone will envy you and we will enjoy your posts here telling us of your amazing experiences in that magnificent machine.

Scott

 

[AggieMike88]

Scott... no interest in this aircraft... already part owner in 2 others and happy with that situation (C182 and Bo V35).

This was the first time I had ever seen the S10-V and was curious.

 

[AggieMike88]

Looking on net for additional info on this aircraft found this image....

 

[AggieMike88]

Video: https://youtu.be/KZhGbjwOFFg

Looks like fun.

 

[BillTIZ]

Looking on net for additional info on this aircraft found this image....

A seriously modified Stemme. The Stemme was standard glider wings and tips.

You do need a glider certificate to fly the Stemme, with "self launch" endorsement. Maybe a couple of days for the self launch endorsement, but the glider rating will take most of a week, flying all day every day, for a pilot with an airplane rating. There are commercial "add-on" schools that do that.

 

[Nsconductor]

Love the V-10! Just curious Brian - why do you say the workload of a light twin?

 

[Ozone]

As a glider pilot, and powered pilot, I would disagree that it's just a week to get a glider rating. It seriously depends on the weather. As for the stemme: that's about the most complex motorglider out there. There are less-expensive options. Although, as seems to often be the case with planes that cost more than they should, this stemme has no price listed. It's a pet peeve of mine: if you are going to advertise on the web, put out a price. Everyone already knows that used stemme planes will still sell for $100K and up. Although, the out-of -date panel in this one may mean that it would go for lower than that.

 

[BillTIZ]

As a glider pilot, and powered pilot, I would disagree that it's just a week to get a glider rating. It seriously depends on the weather. As for the stemme: that's about the most complex motorglider out there. There are less-expensive options. Although, as seems to often be the case with planes that cost more than they should, this stemme has no price listed. It's a pet peeve of mine: if you are going to advertise on the web, put out a price. Everyone already knows that used stemme planes will still sell for $100K and up. Although, the out-of -date panel in this one may mean that it would go for lower than that.

I agree with your evaluation on how much it takes to get the glider add on rating. I only state that there are operations that will teach the PTS to get you through in a week and not every pilot can do that, especially if they arrive unprepared.

I do not agree with one week ratings. The experience is much too limited in one week to become a soaring pilot.

The Stemme is a handful, not only in the cockpit, but with the long wings and 50/1 Ld for landing.

 

[PeeGee]

don't these stemmes cruise pretty quick under power? Like 140 or 150 kts?