Sort of an amusing story... to a geek...

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About four or five years ago, a good business client of mine, Henry, asked me to take a look at his then teen-aged daughter Jackie's PC, which was loaded with spyware and viruses.

On the first trip, I spent an hour or two doing virus and spyware removal, but a week or two later, the machine was infected again. So I went back (for free) and did a reformat / reinstall, figuring I'd missed something the first time.

A week after that, Henry called me back and told me the machine was infected again. I went back again, and sure enough, some spyware had slipped by the security software, and the machine was a mess.

Jackie was 15 at the time and was upset because she wanted to get on AIM to tell her friends about her upcoming sweet 16 party, and her brother (wisely) wouldn't let her near his computer after getting her own infected again. So I booted up my laptop, which was running Fedora, and fired up GAIM so she could chat while I pondered what to do with her machine.

After a few minutes, I noticed that she seemed comfortable with Linux, so I offered to install Fedora on her desktop. She was hesitant: She was intimidated by computers and doubted she could learn to use Linux. But when I pointed out that she was already using Linux on my laptop, she agreed to give it a try -- as long as I promised to put Windows back on her machine if she hated Linux.

So I installed Fedora, explained a little about Linux to her, showed here where to find help, invited her to call me if she needed to, made sure her Internet, sound, printer, and other peripherals worked, and left.

About a month later, Jackie called me and explained that she was having a problem updating some program or another. Her explanation went something like, "The update failed when I ran the RPM; so I downloaded and gunzipped the source, su'd to root, and extracted the tarball, but it segfaulted at line such-and-such..." or something along those lines. I was astonished that she'd picked up the lingo so quickly.

In any case, we solved the update problem. I think she had to do a force install, but I forget. And that was the last time I heard from Jackie.

Since then, Henry's told me whenever I've seen him that Jackie hasn't had any computer problems since we'd put Linux on the machine, and in fact had become a little Linux guru. Apparently, she often takes her Fedora disks to friends' homes to convert them when their computers get bogged down by malware.

A few months ago, I went back to the house to look at Henry's son's PC, and I checked out Jackie's machine while I was there. She hadn't changed the root password, but when I logged in I saw that she had upgraded the installation several times since we'd first installed it. I think I'd installed Fedora Core 2, and she had upgraded it to Fedora 6 by the time I last saw the machine. She obviously was quite comfortable and satisfied with Linux and had been maintaining the system well, so I logged off and left it alone.

Sooo... while at a "geekfest" with local colleagues a month or so ago, I happened to mention the story to a friend, Rob, who promptly told me I was full of something. He couldn't believe that a teen-aged girl could "master" Linux and use it for years with no problems. Not that he had anything against Linux; he just felt it was too complex for an "average" person, much less a teen-ager, to master.

So the other day, when I talked to Henry, I asked him to have Jackie (now 20) give me a call.

Well, Jackie called today and agreed to call Rob at work, and she gave him an earful -- as well as a lesson or two about Linux. Rob called me a few minutes afterwards and apologized profusely, and also said he was astonished at Jackie's knowledge of Linux. The kid has become a legitimate expert, it seems, because even Rob, who is an expert in his own right, was impressed. (I'm merely competent in Linux, so she's certainly advanced beyond me.)

It's hard to figure why a kid who had so much trouble with Windows wound up becoming so competent in Linux. But she did; and apparently she's been leading a mini-Linux revolution among her friends. But she has no desire to make a career of it. She's going into nursing instead. Kind a pity from my selfish point of view, because I'd love to hire her.

In any case, I thought it was rather amusing. I guess you have to be a geek to appreciate it...

-Rich
 
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That's a great story. On a related note, I finally have my wife using Linux (we both run Ubuntu) after YEARS and I do mean YEARS of trying. She simply got sick of dealing with malware. Three months on, she loves it. WINE takes care of the one program she can't run natively and she's doing the updates diligently... now to work on her password strength!

I've run *NIX in some form or another since 1997 and now use it exclusively. I had a brief affair with OSX last year but when she turned ugly on me (why do the cutest kittens have the sharpest claws?) I came running back to my UNIX-like OS's.
 
Ubuntu is a beautiful distro for average users. I hear Dell is even offering it pre-installed now.

It's not "pure" Debian, much less "pure" Unix, and it's a little quirky for experienced Unix users. For example, I sold an old Thinkpad with Ubuntu installed on eBay a few months ago, and the buyer -- a long-time AIX programmer -- was pulling his hair out trying to make some change or another because he didn't know that, by default, you had to sudo rather than su in Ubuntu.

But for newcomers who are just sick of malware but don't want to cough up the money for a new Mac, Ubuntu is ideal. It's an elegant, friendly, polished Linux implementation that still has the stability and power of Debian backing it up. I also like the fact that you can use the live CD to get an idea of whether the machine likes it before committing to an install.

-Rich
 
It's a matter of motivation. When people have it, things happen fast.
 
Heh, those poor AIX guys... has sudo even been ported to AIX yet?!??!! [duck]

It is really strange to not modify /etc/* to change settings. Everything I've needed to do has been available in the GUI. However, I probably won't ever run Linux on my "important" machines. I use Open or FreeBSD for those because I cut my teeth on BSDi way back when, when mice had balls and good monitors weighed 80lbs! Ubuntu has been a great desktop for me for a year now though.
 
My story: My sociopath neighbor asked me to fix his PC. I lost HOURS trying to make an old Gateway with 384M of RAM clean of crapware. (Used AdAware and a Knoppix Live Linux CD, and getting write access to the NTFS volume in Linux....) I installed Firefox and told him to use it. After 4 hours gone...

In a matter of days he tells me it's broken again. He stopped using Firefox, disabled AVG anti-virus et. al. Why? "The (porn) sites I go to don't work. They tell me I HAVE to install stuff so I did...!"

Having learned my lesson. I just had almost a deju vu experience with my cleaning lady. I uninstalled BearShare et. al, also on a PC with 384M RAM, and HANDED HER THE UBUNTU LIVE CD (I burned on my MacBook Pro) that which I had just showed her works fine. (I tried to install Ubuntu but the disk resize hadn't finished after several hours.)

There's some point, when you've shown the man how to fish, if he starves, it isn't your fault.
 
As of a few years ago, I began learning how to set up my machines where I had no problem any interferences. Two years ago, I spent nearly nine hours on my sister's machine via the Internet cleaning it up, dumping the junk, running inspection programs, etc. I had it about as perfect as possible short of reinstalling the OS. A month later, she decided to give away the machine. This one of those times we need an icon for "pulling hair."
 
I use Xubutu because of KDE (preconfigured). Other than running seti, I don't use that PC for anything. My primary machine is Win/XP as is my work machine.
I might use some other unix distribution but I'm not sure I could configure the X-window or KDE environment. The turnkey system worked well as a start. There's just not enough time to dig much deeper right now.
 
And the story goes on...

Jackie's mom called me a few minutes ago regarding her son Henry (14), who has been using his friend's Ubuntu system and loves it. He picked up a live CD and plans to install it on his desktop, and he also wants a laptop with Ubuntu.

I'm going to talk to Henry tonight and help him decide whether to trash Windows or go with a dual-boot arrangement. My inclination is toward the latter, just in case he has to run some piece or another of Windows software for school.

As for the laptop, because laptops can be finicky with all their proprietary hardware, I wanted to make sure that everything would work before I gave advice. I did some searching and found that Acer (among others) is now building laptops for Ubuntu, and they seem to be quite a bargain compared to comparable Windows machines.

It does my heart good that ordinary people are finally realizing there's an alternative to Windows. It's great to see open-source alternatives flourishing. I believe in choice, and if people like Windows enough that they're willing to pay for it, then that's fine by me. But it's good to know that people are starting to understand that they have options.

There have been desktop Linux distros for years, but the Ubuntu community seems to have hit the nail on the head in terms of what average people want from an OS. And I'm not surprised; Ubuntu really is a beautiful desktop Linux implementation.

Oh, and by the way, someone in the I.T. department at the college where Jackie will be studying nursing has offered her a job there, so apparently her expertise hasn't gone unnoticed.

-Rich
 
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Oh, and by the way, someone in the I.T. department at the college where Jackie will be studying nursing has offered her a job there, so apparently her expertise hasn't gone unnoticed.

-Rich

Ohmigawd! They will tempt her with a SysAdmin job but she'll spend the rest of her life cleaning munged Windows PC AND doing admin Linux systems.

Tell her to RUN AWAY! (although from what I hear nursing isn't a much better career.)

My buddy put it best: "System Administration is the job where you get all of the blame when things break and none of credit when they all work."
 
So Mike are we a bitter sys admin?

Pete

Not no more. Now I'm a burned out planner. The SysAdmins are one of the many on my own team who do their best to keep our projects from getting done.

I'm old enough that System and Network administration were some the umpteen jobs I did (at the same time) and I was there when those were being made into actual job titles and careers.
 
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Man now I feel old...I remeber first reading BOFH stories on the Usenet circa 1994 when Mosaic was THE browser :)

I still Like BOFH #1.


Another user rings.
"I need more space" he says
"Well, why not move to Texas?" I ask
"No, on my account, stupid."
Stupid? Uh-Oh..
"I'm terribly sorry" I say, in a polite manner equal to that of Jimmy Stewart in a Weekend Family Matine Feature "I didn't quite catch that. What was it that you said?"
I smell the fear coming down the line at me, but it's too late, he's a goner and he knows it.
"Um, I said what I wanted was more space on my account, *please*"
"Sure, hang on"
I hear him gasp his relief even though he'd covered the mouthpeice.
"There, you've got *plenty* of space now!"
"How much have I got?" he simps
Now this *REALLY* *****ES* *ME* *OFF*! Not only do they want me to give them extra space, they want to check it, then correct me if I don't give them enough! They should be happy with what I give them *and that's it*!
Back into Jimmy Stewart mode.
"Well, let's see, you have 4 Meg available"
"Wow! Eight Meg in total, thanks!" he says, pleased with his bargaining power
"No" I interrupt, savouring this like a fine red at room temperature, with steak, extra rare, to follow; "4 Meg in total.."
"Huh? I'd used 4 Meg already, How could I have 4 Meg Available?"
I say nothing. It'll come to him. "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggghhhhhH!"

Pete
 
slightly off-topic, but somewhat related... if you have some time, and need some good laughts, go here, http://chroniclesofgeorge.nanc.com/

Not sure if anybody has seen this, but it's hilarious.... not sure if the non-IT types will find any humor here are not.... but it's a classic. Havening... I love it...
 
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