Sold out to Japan - Jim Beam & Maker's Mark

Love my makers mark ,if they don't change the bourbon,will probably stay with it. However starting to move up to better bourbons ,it's only money
 
Gary F said:
They can't move the distillery out of Kentucky so who cares? The tour with samples at the end is worth a trip. Fly to Bowling Green and take the Kentucky Bourbon trail tour. The Corvette plant is there and Mammoth caves are nearby. A great area to visit.

http://kybourbontrail.com/
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I imagine stumbling into a dark cave after visiting several distillery sampling rooms will separate the men from the boys.

"Any y'all that make it out that there cave will being going to the Corvette plant."

"Any tat don't, well, we'll see ya down the road"

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Alexb2000 said:
I imagine stumbling into a dark cave after visiting several distillery sampling rooms will separate the men from the boys.

"Any y'all that make it out that there cave will being going to the Corvette plant."

"Any tat don't, well, we'll see ya down the road"

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I like the area so much I hope to move there in a couple of years. I'll drive from distillery to distillery in my shiny new Corvette. I'm not thrilled with the newest design but gotta support the local economy.
 
frfly172 said:
Love my makers mark ,if they don't change the bourbon,will probably stay with it. However starting to move up to better bourbons ,it's only money
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Keep moving on past Makers Mark. So many better and more interesting Bourbons out there that no sense stopping with Makers.

And for something different, grab a bottle of Rye (Sazerac and Templeton are my current go-to's).
 
Gary F said:
I like the area so much I hope to move there in a couple of years. I'll drive from distillery to distillery in my shiny new Corvette. I'm not thrilled with the newest design but gotta support the local economy.
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If you haven't already, you might want to spend a bit more time there before you decide to do something permanent. I built an O'Reilly's in Bowling Green and one right around the corner in Tompkinsville in 2011. Built one up the road in Carrollton in 2010.

Lived in those areas for about 8 months total. BEAUTIFUL areas. But with big issues and lots of really uneducated and ignorant people.

Great area to vacation though. Mammoth Cave is awesome. Spent four days spelunking there (for real, not just the BS tours). The lakes in the area are cool. Some pretty nice streams to fish. And, of course, as you mentioned, the corvette factory. That tour was cool.

Just a tad bit too much banjo music out in the countryside for me. My mouth ain't that purty!

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timwinters said:
If you haven't already, you might want to spend a bit more time there before you decide to do something permanent. I built an O'Reilly's in Bowling Green and one right around the corner in Tompkinsville in 2011. Built one up the road in Carrollton in 2010.

Lived in those areas for about 8 months total. BEAUTIFUL areas. But with big issues and lots of really uneducated and ignorant people.

Great area to vacation though. Mammoth Cave is awesome. Spent four days spelunking there. The lakes in the area are cool. Some pretty nice streams to fish. And, of course, as you mentioned, the corvette factory. That tour was cool.

Just a tad bit too much banjo music out in the countryside for me. My mouth ain't that purty!

:nonod:
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I'll fit right in. I'm a hairy knuckled climate denier redneck who owns a Harley and multiple firearms. I lived all over the South including Hopkinsville Kentucky, Alma and LaGrange Georgia, Montgomery, Auburn and Mobile Alabama, Bryant Arkansas, Ft. Hood Texas. I'd rather live near a good Barbeque joint than a Bistro. What's wrong with Bluegrass music? I'm sick of cold and snow.
 
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Now that 'shine's gone legit, it's outfreakinrageous in price. $32 for a qt mason jar. For that kind of money, you can buy good likker...
 
JoseCuervo said:
Keep moving on past Makers Mark. So many better and more interesting Bourbons out there that no sense stopping with Makers.

And for something different, grab a bottle of Rye (Sazerac and Templeton are my current go-to's).
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I like the Old Rip Bourbon when I can find it, I find their Pappy Ryes to be overpriced. Anywhere has a bottle of Bookers, let it simmer on ice for a minute. Go to Bourbon is Wild Turkey 101. But I'm Tennessee Whiskey man if I'm going cheap.
 
timwinters said:
If you haven't already, you might want to spend a bit more time there before you decide to do something permanent. I built an O'Reilly's in Bowling Green and one right around the corner in Tompkinsville in 2011. Built one up the road in Carrollton in 2010.

Lived in those areas for about 8 months total. BEAUTIFUL areas. But with big issues and lots of really uneducated and ignorant people.

Great area to vacation though. Mammoth Cave is awesome. Spent four days spelunking there. The lakes in the area are cool. Some pretty nice streams to fish. And, of course, as you mentioned, the corvette factory. That tour was cool.

Just a tad bit too much banjo music out in the countryside for me. My mouth ain't that purty!

:nonod:
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Maybe you will get to meet four Kentuckians Sunday. By the way, KY ranks 37th and MO ranks 47th in state education rankings.
 
I did the Corvette Museum and Factory tour a few years ago. Also went into Mammoth Caves a couple of times and hit a few distilleries. Maker's Mark was one of the tour stops where I got to dip a couple of bottles in the wax.
 
I think they're turning Japanese.

I really think so.
 
RV10flyer said:
Maybe you will get to meet four Kentuckians Sunday. By the way, KY ranks 37th and MO ranks 47th in state education rankings.
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Hmmm...maybe that's one of the reasons we were voted the number one redneck state last year.

It's contagious!
 
I wish there was a better selection of smaller size, maybe 200 ml, of quality Bourbon so I could try them without blowing too much money. I've occasionally been disappointed with the expensive stuff.
 
Gary F said:
I wish there was a better selection of smaller size, maybe 200 ml, of quality Bourbon so I could try them without blowing too much money. I've occasionally been disappointed with the expensive stuff.
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You could always have a party. Serve the stuff you don't like to your guests. If one says they really like it, let him have the bottle.
I'm expecting an invite!
 
silver-eagle said:
You could always have a party. Serve the stuff you don't like to your guests. If one says they really like it, let him have the bottle.
I'm expecting an invite!
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I don't throw a lot of official parties. However, any POA member who is willing to trek to the U.P. in the winter will be rewarded. I might even bring some Bourbon to the 6Y9 fly-in this year.
 
Gary F said:
I wish there was a better selection of smaller size, maybe 200 ml, of quality Bourbon so I could try them without blowing too much money. I've occasionally been disappointed with the expensive stuff.
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That's what happened with me with Woodford Reserve. Ick. I do like Knob Creek.
 
Gary F said:
I wish there was a better selection of smaller size, maybe 200 ml, of quality Bourbon so I could try them without blowing too much money. I've occasionally been disappointed with the expensive stuff.
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I like to try out new bourbons during my exceedingly rare visits to bars, lounges, etc. Cruise ships are usually well stocked with premium liquors, as is the local cigar bar. I'm not going to buy a bottle of, say, Knob Creek or Gentleman Jack or some fancy Scotch just to see if I like it, especially since a bottle of hooch is well over a year's supply for me. I'll have to have a party one of these days... got two bottles of bourbon as Christmas gifts. If I get two bottles a year I can bequeath a small liquor store to my kids when I go.
 
Unlikely they will move the distilleries, but there's no requirement that Bourbon be made in Kentucky. Actually distilling is purely a mechanical process once you come up with the mash bill. The real art is in the aging/blending. Kentucky is king because it gets beastly hot in the summer and freezing cold in the winter (everything I know about winemaking is WRONG for Bourbon).

The real key is not changing the master distillers. Pretty much whichever company you are talking about they are some relative of the Beams. Something genetic in their noses.

By the way, there's lots of SELLING OUT in the US spirits industry and it's been going on for a long time. Take a look at what Beam or Heavenly Hills owns. The only thing is different is that it's Suntory or Diageo buying Kentucky. Diageo already has Dickel down in Tennessee. Diageo is launching their own Bourbon (Orphan Barrel).
 
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The Japanese have been making investments in US companies for years. The one that comes first to mind is the acquisition of Columbia pictures by Sony. I've read that many, if not most, were disastrous, though I suspect you gentlemen (and ladies) would know better than I.
 
Gary F said:
Here it is. http://kybourbontrail.com/
There are plenty more distilleries in that part of the country. Some are big and well known and others are amateur operations where visitors are discouraged. Years ago I stumbled across an abandoned moonshine still when I was hiking in North Carolina.
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I did the trail a few years back. I found a few favorites:

Four Roses yellow label is an excellent "table" bourbon, about $18/5th around here. It is really good for a fairly inexpensive bottle and I always keep a bottle around.

http://www.fourrosesbourbon.com/yellow/

M new favorite fairly expensive bottle:

Knob Creek Single Barrel reserve 9yr, my favorite after sampling 3-5 bourbons at six different distilleries. ~$40-50/bottle

http://www.knobcreek.com/knob-creek-single-barrel-reserve
 
frfly172 said:
Love my makers mark ,if they don't change the bourbon,will probably stay with it. However starting to move up to better bourbons ,it's only money
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Still keep a bottle of Makers 46 around, it's probably the bottom of my selection. Although I do have a bottle of Jack for my son (who insists on polluting it with Pepsi)(he does look a bit like the mailman too come to think of it):hairraise:

Breckenridge and Woodford Reserve seem to find it's way out to the cigar deck more often than not, although I'm going to pick up a bottle of Paddleford Creek next time I get a chance based on a recommendation.
 
I wasn't over fond of 46. I've got a bottle small bottle of regular makers that I dipped myself in their gift shop. One of my 12 year old Elijah Craig got smashed when the wind blew over a picture on it. I still have some of the EW single barrel stuff left.

I've got two bottles of EW Try Box (White Whiskey, one corn, one rye).
I've been digging around ryes. Currently working through a bottle of Bullitt 95
 
I drank more between the ages of 18-21 than I have in the 27 years since. I might put a little rum in my eggnog during the holidays, maybe have a beer or two each summer, but for the most part I don't drink. One thing I can't resist though are bourbon balls.

I work closely with Kentuckians and by and large they're alright. Mostly those with a drawl. Not sure how there ends up being a select few with a northern accent, but they just don't have the same personality and in my opinion should be ejected from the state.
 
JoseCuervo said:
Keep moving on past Makers Mark. So many better and more interesting Bourbons out there that no sense stopping with Makers.

And for something different, grab a bottle of Rye (Sazerac and Templeton are my current go-to's).
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Scotch drinker here (currently Talisker) but got dipped in some Bourbons during a couple of trips to Lexington. Drank some Woodford Reserve, keep a bottle of Makers Mark around just because. Actually, if anything stays around it means I'm not drinking it... I guess I still don't really have a taste for it.

Just had my first Rye the other night and loved it. Will bee picking up a bottle of good stuff soon. :D
 
Gerhardt said:
I drank more between the ages of 18-21 than I have in the 27 years since. I might put a little rum in my eggnog during the holidays, maybe have a beer or two each summer, but for the most part I don't drink. One thing I can't resist though are bourbon balls.

I work closely with Kentuckians and by and large they're alright. Mostly those with a drawl. Not sure how there ends up being a select few with a northern accent, but they just don't have the same personality and in my opinion should be ejected from the state.
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I lived in Charlotte for 6 years. The Carolina drawl was cute for about 6 days. Then it just became irritating.
 
Bill Watson said:
Scotch drinker here (currently Talisker) but got dipped in some Bourbons during a couple of trips to Lexington. Drank some Woodford Reserve, keep a bottle of Makers Mark around just because. Actually, if anything stays around it means I'm not drinking it... I guess I still don't really have a taste for it.

Just had my first Rye the other night and loved it. Will bee picking up a bottle of good stuff soon. :D
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Generally a bourbon drinker here.

If I have a choice between Scotch and Irish Whiskey, I'll take the Irish whiskey every time. Same great taste, but smoother. I really like the Middleton distillery.
 
Old Fart said:
Breckenridge and Woodford Reserve seem to find it's way out to the cigar deck more often than not, although I'm going to pick up a bottle of Paddleford Creek next time I get a chance based on a recommendation.
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I could care less if the Nips turn it all to Saki, I was never a big fan of Beam and don't much like Makers Mark either. I do like Woodford, a lot. The only thing I don't like about it is I won't cook with it, I save cheap nasty stuff (like Beam) for that. I'll have to try some Breckenridge on your recommendation.

Usually the thing that gets me to buy a bottle of Bourbon is a price tag of ten bucks or lower. I cook with the stuff, that and cheap tequila. That, or mix it with Pepsi. That said, if you need to mix Bourbon with Pepsi to drink it the Bourbon you're drinking ain't no good.
 
nddons said:
Generally a bourbon drinker here.

If I have a choice between Scotch and Irish Whiskey, I'll take the Irish whiskey every time. Same great taste, but smoother. I really like the Middleton distillery.
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My memory is just the opposite re Scotch and Irish Whiskey, but it has been awhile and more research is required. Yep :yesnod:
 
This makes Suntory the third largest Beverages company behind Diageo and Pernod. As long as they do not mess with the formula or flavor, things should be really good for Jim and Makers. They will increase the amount distilled. Apparently, Bourbon is a growing drink in Asia.
I went to a malt whisky tasting in Scotland which featured a new Japanese whisky. I just didn't think there was any character to it. A good whisky, just not a stand out.
 
steingar said:
I could care less if the Nips turn it all to Saki, I was never a big fan of Beam and don't much like Makers Mark either. I do like Woodford, a lot. The only thing I don't like about it is I won't cook with it, I save cheap nasty stuff (like Beam) for that. I'll have to try some Breckenridge on your recommendation.

Usually the thing that gets me to buy a bottle of Bourbon is a price tag of ten bucks or lower. I cook with the stuff, that and cheap tequila. That, or mix it with Pepsi. That said, if you need to mix Bourbon with Pepsi to drink it the Bourbon you're drinking ain't no good.
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Beam makes others too, Basil Haydes, Knob Creek, Bakers and Bookers.
 
That's IT - I'm pouring the Woodford. I hope you're ALL happy :)

(and if you're anywhere around LGB, drop by) :)
 
I like Woodford, 1779 as well as a bottle of Col. Taylor.
As for Suntory they actually make a pretty good scotch.
 
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