Social Justice

Permission? You will need to fill out all applicable forms in triplicate and submit to the proper authorities...:D...whoever they are...

Put it out there...the worse that could happen is it get zapped to the Spin Zone.

sidneyfw said:
Permission to ask a question regarding Social Justice?
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Is social justice like a social disease?
 
Social justice is a term describing how those who have not worked to get an education, save for the future, or do anything to help themselves, then demand the same benefits as those who have.
 
I don't do a lot of commercial flying, about 1 1/2 times a year on average.
I have never noticed a Captain or First officer that have been non-caucasion!
A few females as First Officer, in all areas of my world, including applicants for the Union plumber/steamfitter apprenticeship program, federal law requires a percentage of new students to be minorities/women regardless of their scores an apptitude tests relating to said trade, if they meet minimum requirements. Does this apply to the Airlines hiring new Pilots?
 
sidneyfw said:
I don't do a lot of commercial flying, about 1 1/2 times a year on average.
I have never noticed a Captain or First officer that have been non-caucasion!
A few females as First Officer, in all areas of my world, including applicants for the Union plumber/steamfitter apprenticeship program, federal law requires a percentage of new students to be minorities/women regardless of their scores an apptitude tests relating to said trade, if they meet minimum requirements. Does this apply to the Airlines hiring new Pilots?
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Airlines generally hire fully trained, ATP rated pilots. ATP rated pilots are generally white males, and that is why you see a lot of white guys in the cockpit.
 
sidneyfw said:
I don't do a lot of commercial flying, about 1 1/2 times a year on average.
I have never noticed a Captain or First officer that have been non-caucasion!
A few females as First Officer, in all areas of my world, including applicants for the Union plumber/steamfitter apprenticeship program, federal law requires a percentage of new students to be minorities/women regardless of their scores an apptitude tests relating to said trade, if they meet minimum requirements. Does this apply to the Airlines hiring new Pilots?
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Ask silly question, get silly answer.
 
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In all seriousness, I've flown with a bunch of "non-Caucasian" pilots in my career. I'll admit that they are definitely in the minority. Can't give you a scientifically acceptable answer as to why, but it seems to me that maybe these groups as a whole just don't want to be pilots.
 
I'm a non-Caucasian, non-male ATP and I carry a big stick (figuratively) so everyone behave.
 
sidneyfw said:
I don't do a lot of commercial flying, about 1 1/2 times a year on average.
I have never noticed a Captain or First officer that have been non-caucasion!
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You need to fly more. Up until within the last year Delta's most senior Captain was an African American who started out as a mechanic IIRC. He hit mandatory retirement in 2013.
 
Fearless Tower said:
You need to fly more. Up until within the last year Delta's most senior Captain was an African American who started out as a mechanic IIRC. He hit mandatory retirement in 2013.
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Which country in Africa was he from?
 
sidneyfw said:
I don't do a lot of commercial flying, about 1 1/2 times a year on average.
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You need to fly more. I have seen quite a few female and "non-Caucasian" pilots (or both) and they were up to snuff...no doubt.


sidneyfw said:
I have never noticed a Captain or First officer that have been non-caucasion!
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Is this something you set out to see?

sidneyfw said:
A few females as First Officer, in all areas of my world, including applicants for the Union plumber/steamfitter apprenticeship program, federal law requires a percentage of new students to be minorities/women regardless of their scores an apptitude tests relating to said trade, if they meet minimum requirements.
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This seems contradictory to me...I may be making a determination based solely on what you have written. So I will assume that an aptitude test as it is is not part of a minimum requirement...


sidneyfw said:
Does this apply to the Airlines hiring new Pilots?
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kyleb says:
Airlines generally hire fully trained, ATP rated pilots. ATP rated pilots are generally white males, and that is why you see a lot of white guys in the cockpit.
 
sidneyfw said:
I don't do a lot of commercial flying, about 1 1/2 times a year on average.
I have never noticed a Captain or First officer that have been non-caucasion!
A few females as First Officer, in all areas of my world, including applicants for the Union plumber/steamfitter apprenticeship program, federal law requires a percentage of new students to be minorities/women regardless of their scores an apptitude tests relating to said trade, if they meet minimum requirements. Does this apply to the Airlines hiring new Pilots?
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You use this as a criteria, you get Colgan Air flight 3407.
 
sidneyfw said:
I don't do a lot of commercial flying, about 1 1/2 times a year on average.
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According to the Census web page in 2012 the population in the US that identifies themselves only as Black or African American is 13.1%. Those that identify themselves only as White is 77.9%. 63% if you use the category White alone not Hispanic or Latino.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

I don't know the actual break down of pilots by race but based on that information and your flying frequency alone even if pilots mirrored the general population (I would guess you are correct in assuming they don't) your observations alone wouldn't really give you enough information to make an informed decision.
 
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