You are a CFI. You do not currently meet the requirements for night flight with passengers. (Less than 3 landings in the last 90 days) Can you instruct a private student pilot, at night, if they are night current, and they remain sole manipulator of the controls?
I'm not sure if you are posting this sincerely or just to stir the pot... But as been discussed numerous times, a student is not considered a passenger. Neither the CFI nor the student need be night current to be legal.
Honestly, I did forget that students aren’t passengers. It’s so freaking stupid, but most of the regs are.
No argument from me. Honestly when I became a CFI, it had been years since I flew at night. Just never had much need for it when the sun sets after 9:00 PM during the best flying weather here, and the weather usually sucks when it sets at 4:30 PM.
Anybody that thinks it makes sense that a student isn't a passenger, and that it makes sense that the currency rule doesn't apply if the passenger is a student is pretty naive.
Yep, all these rules and regulations must have been instated after you got your certificate. How dare they!
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I have no idea who you are responding too, but your post certainly makes no sense as a response to mine. It's a pretty solid straw man argument though. Or perhaps non-sequitur.
I used the word passenger because you put a passenger into the scenario. A Pilot receiving instruction is not a passenger, but a passenger is still a passenger regardless of certificates held.
Restating to avoid the trigger word Anybody that thinks it makes sense that a student isn't a passenger, and that it makes sense that the currency rule doesn't apply if the person who is not PIC and is at the mercy of the PIC, happens to be a student, is pretty naive.
Anybody who thinks a student is necessarily at the mercy of an instructor either is or has had some really ****ty instructors.
The FAA believes that an instructor should have 3 landings in 90 days in order to carry a passenger with them. The FAA believes that same instructor does not need to have any recent landings in order to carry a student with them. This is stupid. If you disagree, you are being obtuse or naive. A student is no less at the mercy of an instructor than a passenger is.
I agree with that. But then that just means you think it's the first statement in my last post that's silly rather than the second one.
An issue I have with the night currency regulation is that it is a “one size fits all” designed for the lowest common denominator. As a working pilot, I take checkrides every six months and can have a dozen night landings in the jet, but have to go up and do three laps around the pattern in the Pilatus to keep the FAA happy because the reg is written for the 100 hour private pilot.
Exactly. If I’ve been to sim training in the past 12 months and have flown 15 hours in the previous 90 days, I don’t need any night time at all.
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I’m going to be like the dude from Memento and get all the FAR’s tattoo’d on me so I remember them each day.
